american, woman of color. she s hustling. he s doing the work that it takes to win. dana: they re often first time candidates. are you encouraging them to go to sort of a state level office or local office instead of just running for congress? we only work for people running for state hrepbl slate khur or below. could be school board candidates. sometimes things like the american river flood control district trustee or a library board. your first entry point into politic. dana: what happens after? do you follow-up with them or do you let them go on from there? when we connect them to organizations that will help them be successful in the office they re holding. for folks who lose, we make sure if they run again, they have the clear next step and whatever they do, election day is not tend of their civic engagement. it s only the beginning. dana: how did you get started? i m a long term campaign hack. i worked for hillary for two year, obama after that. this is a problem i wa