here is the catch point. who is going to pay for that? who is going to pay for that? the kaiser family foundation has done a study on this and side high risk pools work, they actually work but they are underfunded. i believe that president trump is sending a message and implied this on several occasions, maybe more money would be sent there than before. right now we re spending 64 billion a year to subsidize the state exchanges. what if we used half of that, 30 billion and subsidized high-risk pools in the states that decide they want to go that way? bill: would that account for coverage for pre-existing conditions? i think it would and america s compassion. we want to take care of our sick. the question is how. if we make a 25-year-old pay for a 60-year-old with diabetes and heart disease they won t be able to afford the car they want to buy and may not be able to afford their house. bill: you just heard what his position is in that answer on cbs. is it okay for states to manage
surprise. that might explain while outside pence s speeches they re protesting to protect the affordable care act. thank you for being here. so that disconnect where people didn t understand that what they had with connect was, in fact, obamacare has led them to elect a governor who promised to repeal obamacare came in and blew up the state exchanges. what can you give us some anecdote a.m.s on some of your constituents who now realize what they re losing? we have, for instance, several community health centers here who are providing care to thousands of more people right now and they will testify to the incredible benefit in this community and now they re scared to death that those people who are getting preventive care and getting screenings and dental care will be cut off.
involved. there is health savings accounts where patients can pay out-of-pocket for more things. where there is tax deductions. he put for the a proposal where you get tax credits and use that to buy insurance with. as well as directly services. martha: that s a comprehensive plan very different than what we got in obamacare. so the big question is how do you give the new program and how do you get it started while protecting people and making sure that you don t have those gaps in between? because that s the biggest concern that people have. i think you add, rather than take away right away. i think, again, in the clip that carl just showed you see some of that. you have medicaid expansion. i don t believe the administration is going to remove medicaid expansion. it may add a private option to it. it may switch it to block grants. same as medicare. they may add a private option to medicare. i always said add a catastrophic option. right now have you a situation where the governmen
involved. there is health savings accounts where patients can pay out-of-pocket for more things. where there is tax deductions. he put for the a proposal where you get tax credits and use that to buy insurance with. as well as directly services. martha: that s a comprehensive plan very different than what we got in obamacare. so the big question is how do you give the new program and how do you get it started while protecting people and making sure that you don t have those gaps in between? because that s the biggest concern that people have. i think you add, rather than take away right away. i think, again, in the clip that carl just showed you see some of that. you have medicaid expansion. i don t believe the administration is going to remove medicaid expansion. it may add a private option to it. it may switch it to block grants. same as medicare. they may add a private option to medicare. i always said add a catastrophic option. right now have you a situation where the governmen
low-cost, low-premium insurance could be introduced right away to protect the public from somebody getting ill. melissa: something missing in what you re saying, how do you pay for the really sick people? it makes sense but the reason we had all those other things in place we re trying to pay for the people who have pre-existing conditions and use a lot of healthcare. how do you pay for that? that s why president trump is saying it will take a while, a year or two for this whole thing to be fixed because the ultimate goal is probably to be create high-risk pools with those with pre-existing conditions can be subsidized by the government. right now almost everybody is subsidized by the government. if you go to the state exchange you pay $350 for a premium, $250 comes out of the taxpayer pocket. that has to change. critics are saying wait a minute. we don t want 30 million to lose insurance right away. so let s honor the state exchanges as we try to reform