clear to the american people that domestic politics don t intrude on foreign policy. so this is something that shouldn t have been done. it is not the norm. it was a mistake. you know, the house of representatives in the senate will have to decide whether it is an impeachable offense or not. but the kind of things that should have been done. and i think the administration and the president are rightly paying a political price for it. megan, when you use the state department machinery, these ambassadors, deputy assistant secretaries of state, what does it do to american diplomacy? what does it do not moral of the foreign service officers? well, certainly, the firing of the u.s. ambassador to ukraine or her removal over these kinds of disputes is very demoralizing to our diplomatic core. and especially when you re reading the transcript of
policy. i remember, when karl rove wanted to attend the nsc meetings on foreign policy matters, i thought it was fine. president bush, george w. bush said, absolutely not. i want to make it absolutely clear to the american people that domestic politics don t intrude on foreign policy. so this is something that shouldn t have been done. it is not the norm. it was a mistake. you know, the house of representatives in the senate will have to decide whether it is an impeachable offense or not. but it is not the kind of things that should have been done. and i think the administration and the president are rightly paying a political price for it. megan, when you use the state department machinery, these ambassadors, deputy assistant secretaries of state, what does it do to american diplomacy? what does it do not moral of the foreign service officers? well, certainly, the firing of the u.s. ambassador to ukraine or her removal over these kinds of disputes is very