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except with different goods in terms of our dependency on china. if we have a chance of winning this competition we need to selectively decouple our economy from china before it s too late. dana: when the c.i.a. director says this you would imagine this is something that the entire national security council talks about, right? so do you think from your position on those committees that the department of defense is in agreement? from what they ve said i believe they are. is the state department as well? they all have to be in coordination in order to lead the country in that direction. well, both the department of defense and the state department have said retoreically that china is our biggest long-term competitor but at least in terms of the defense department, they have recently downgraded some of the language they ve used not calling china a threat in terms solely of economic competition.

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