for us. it looks like you have a bus full of people behind you loading up. reporter: actually unloading right now. these are people who have just come across the border. into this parking lot people they re holding they re all volunteers, and they have the names of different locations that the people arriving from ukraine can get free rides to to find accommodation arwa reporter: people who have been. arwa, stand by just a moment. it sounds like your audio was
inflates it was found, and the evidence of three or four people without seat belts on which would indicate that. we definitely have indications and evidence of breakup of the aircraft. we don t know if it was in flight or subsequent but it appears to me if there was an attempt to ditch that that was not a successful attempt and there was some breakup in the aircraft. but it does not mean that there weren t some survivors, and we still need to leave that option open until we hear more from the autopsies of the victims. all right, david, peter, miles, stand by just a moment. i want to bring in jeffrey thomas. he s joining us from perth, australia. he s the managing director of airlineratings.com. jeffrey, i want to ask you if you think there is a chance the plane could have landed intact. it s a very interesting theory. my feeling, though is if the pilot had a chance to do a
deputies are finding out in the field. this is a friend of my husband who happens to be former law enforcement. so they are all texting each other. so, as soon as can i give you a name, i will. but what a loss this is going to be. shepard: yeah. back to you guys. shepard: man alive, christina, thank you so much. so many sacrifice so much us and get caught up in the middle of this. we re reporting from rome tonight where it s just past midnight, 17 minutes past actually 17 minutes past 1:00 in the morning. can i tell you this is a story that has been covered here. this is being watched around the world. nowhere closer than at the los angeles police department where our correspondent william la jeunesse is. william, have we been able to get anything from police about what it is that has happened in the last hour and a half or so in that cabin? it sounds like they have heard no gunshots and they fired tear gas in there which leads you to wonder. what we just heard is that four t
taken to a separate area where i will give them some additional instructions. members of the jury, you may retire now to begin your deliberations. molly: we have just listened to judge belvin perry instructing the jury in the casey anthony trial in orlando. they will now head back to the quarters where they will begin discussion after they choose a foreperson and they have a number of things to look at. chief among them is premeditation. let s bring back john patrick dolan and phillip ray. thank you for standing by as the judge instructed the jury, we appreciate it. let s talk about that issue of premeditation to start with. has the prosecution done their job in the sense of proving first-degree here? have they shown that casey anthony killed caylee on purpose and that there was preplanning
molly: what are your thoughts on that wording, that this is a forensic fantasy? well, i think there s some merit to what he s saying, and my concern is about the forensics. bad forensic science drives out good forensic science, and i think that what s happened here is that this bodes ill for the future in other trials, that unless this is reversed on appeal which it may be, a guilty verdict, that more bad science will be permitted in by other judges. fantasy, you know, disappearing science that a heart image was present on duct tape that other people have looked at, the fbi lab had not seen. and the trainee who saw it was allowed to testify about seeing it, but it disappeared before she could take a photograph of it. that should not be allowed in, and that says, trust me, i m