magnitude of these terrible acts and that also insure that penn state will rebuild an athletic culture that went horribly arye. martha: this latest one comes after 48 hours after the school itself removed the iconic statue of famed coach joe paterno. they put up a scaffolding around it, then shrouded it with a blanket and took it out of there. nobody knows p-l where the exactly where they put it into hiding right now. i have two guests with me. let me start with you, what was your reaction as you heard president emmert start to make this lis of very, very stiff penalties. i think they had to do two things and they did it well. they had to do one thing to help the victims. raising $60 million, whether it comes from penn state s budget, who cares. it goes to victims and future
anarchists and marxists. those overrun by that, the fires in oakland. 36 arrests since wednesday alone. martha: there has been a reluctance in many ways to talk about the things that have been arye, the damage because if i could finish there is a very important point here i wanted to make. selfpoliceing asimovment if you will. when somebody came out in the tea party didn t fit what it was i went on national tv and took mark williams on. no selfpolicing by the quote, occupy wall street movement. they should have forcefully ejected this. martha: i think that s why some people have been reluctant to point out some of the things happening at some of the rallies and the damage and vandalism that have been done because they don t want to be painted with the broad stroke. well you weren t willing to accept the people who were crazy in the tea party so you can t do the same thing byville flying these call street occupiers. now they ve got a tent to keep
it came right over our heads. right over, i heard the whistle. right over our heads. apparently they are zeroing in on this position. we re going to grab our lids and move back to the last check-point a little further back. meanwhile moammar qaddafi is calling for a global jihad on the west after nato accepted responsibility for a an errant attack that injured people. there was some sort of weapon system failure nato says that caused a missile strike to go arye, hit the wrong target a residential building. nato says moammar qaddafi is desperate and this is a matter of patience and resolve, jon. the air strikes will continue. that is welcome news to the opposition fighters who say they want more, not less, just directed at the right targets, jon. jon: scary stuff, keep your head
jenna: why is it so important to find out who is behind it. at end of the day we will not know unless the documents come out 30 years from now or someone leaks it we won t be able to say who exactly did it. iran lost 900 sentra tpaoupbls, that extends the timeline here, it pushes the possibility of a crisis further down the road is a good thing. this is so the of like a detective mystery, you start with a body, the body is the set of sentra fudges that grew up and went arye. then you ask yourself, who has the capability and motivation. analysts say this virus was so sophisticated it was only a government who could have done it who had the proprietary information, and that points to motivation which is either the u.s. israel or associated countries. jenna: we talked about how this year it s really important for iran-phrerpb relations, and
trial it s not necessarily a defense. their argument and opening statement is, well they did it but things just went aeu rye arye. it got out of hand. megyn: what s what the defendant steve hayes said when he was arrested on site. what, i accidentally killed them? it seems to go to the defense that if police had acted faster. let me just be clear i m not blaming this on police, this is on the hands of the two murderers who did it, i m just talking about what the defense theorize. they seem to be arguing if the police had acted faster things would not have, quote, got even out of control. is that even a recognized defense, wendy? could that be used at least in the penalty phase to lessen the penalty? no, no it s not legitimate as a defense to the merits, it s not legitimate as a mitigation factor during the death penalty phase. but, again, if jurors get distracted by this red herring, well the cops could have done better, the cops could have done