Joan donoghue, welcome to hardtalk. Happy to be here. You sat on the International Court ofjustice for pretty much 14 years. The last three years as president of the court. One of your last cases was the case brought by south africa against israel on the basis of genocide in gaza. Were you aware of the scale of International Scrutiny on that particular case . Yes, absolutely. It was very clear. And in particular, or, for example, outside of the peace palace, where the court sits, there were two groups of demonstrators, or interested people, and one of them had a Big Jumbotron Set Up Outside so that the participants there could watch what was going on inside. And we were aware of people Around The World watching the delivery of the order. Do you feel the pressure in that situation . I wouldnt say that i felt pressure but i felt that the delivery of the order itself would be something that would matter, including in the way i delivered it to regular people, notjust to International Law e
There was a plausible case to answer, but a finaljudgment is likely to take years. Today i have an exclusive interview with joan donoghue, Thejust Retired president of the icj, who delivered that initial court ruling that sent shock waves Around The World. In a sense, the whole idea of internationaljustice is on trial. How will it fare . Joan donoghue, welcome to hardtalk. Happy to be here. You sat on the International Court ofjustice for pretty much iii years. The last three years as president of the court. One of your last cases was the case brought by south africa against israel on the basis of genocide in gaza. Were you aware of the scale of International Scrutiny on that particular case . Yes, absolutely. It was very clear. And in particular, or, for example, outside of the peace palace, where the court sits, there were two groups of demonstrators, or interested people, and one of them had a Big Jumbotron Set Up Outside so that the participants there could watch what was going on
How will it fare . Joan donoghue, welcome to hardtalk. Happy to be here. You sat on the International Court ofjustice for pretty much 14 years. The last three years as president of the court. One of your last cases was the case brought by south africa against israel on the basis of genocide in gaza. Were you aware of the scale of International Scrutiny on that particular case . Yes, absolutely. It was very clear. And in particular, or, for example, outside of the peace palace, where the court sits, there were two groups of demonstrators, or interested people, and one of them had a Big Jumbotron Set Up Outside so that the participants there could watch what was going on inside. And we were aware of people Around The World watching the delivery of the order. Do you feel the pressure in that situation . I wouldnt say that i felt pressure but i felt that the delivery of the order itself would be something that would matter, including in the way i delivered it to regular people, notjust to
After weeks of controversy, Luis Rubiales has resigned as president of the spanish football federation. It follows weeks of pressure for him to resign, after he kissed Jenni Hermoso on the lips after spains victory over england in last months world cup final. Hermoso said the kiss was not consensual. The spanish football journalist and author Guillem Balague gave me his view of how people are reacting to the resignation. Generally of celebration. At the same time, quiet celebration, because this should be the beginning of something, or at least the continuation of something. When the 81 female players decided not to join the National Team next when they get called up, said they wanted the directors to actually be removed from the federation. They werent just talking about Luis Rubiales, they were talking about systemic discrimination against women. Theres so many examples. The assembly that decides everything in the federation, 43 members, only seven women, and it goes on and on and on