on criminal referrals. you worked at the justice department. if the january 6th committee takes that step, how does attorney general merrick garland handle the referrals? how does it impact the investigation that doj is carrying? not at all, alex. look, here is the thing. congress issuing a referral is an important statement from congress as a co-equal branch of government saying we investigated this, we think there is wrongdoing, justice department, do what you have to do with it. the justice department can crumple it up and throw it into the garbage can if they want. it s important for a body of congress. it doesn t mean it has any impact on the law. some of this is about how the branches of government interact with each oerl. at the end of the day, not much there. the committee was still carrying out interviews as late as this week. so this is, obviously, a sprawling interview. sprawling process that they have to put together into a report.