and it s unprecedented we use that word quite a lot with donald trump, carol and i wonder your thoughts o what might happen here - emily kohrs said that th special grand jury recommended indicting over a dozen people, which might include donald trump. walk us through what that woul mean, carol lam. if trump were indicted potentially, in two differen jurisdictions at once in thi country right so, you are talking about th georgia jurisdiction and the manhattan jurisdiction these are both state prosecutions the grand jury construct i georgia is a little unusual. they have a special grand jury which is a grand jury that has heard all of this evidence and it has allowed them to focus on just this case for as long as they need to focus o it but they don t have the powe to indict. and now the evidence is turned over to a regular criminal grand jury which, i think, i not an ideal situation because this second grand jury presumably, will not be hearin the testimony from the
less - it will just intensify all the feelings and all the triba politics out there and it will force th republican party - i think this is bad news for ron desantis in some ways, maybe to rally around trum even more, because he will demand it. this is the oath of loyalty he will demand from all republicans. support me on this, mccarthy already has. you are in the ring with me. yeah, i was going to, say i m totally with you on this when i think republicans are all about protection when they are coming out and saying the weaponization o government they re projectin that that s exactly what the intend to do with the powe they currently have. danny, let me play for you thi soundbite from donald trump attorney in this, who was with my colleague ari melber earlie this week. watch this defense argument. even if you put in your checkbook values me purchased a horse. that s inaccurate. that s a lie, maybe. but there s no crime there because this filing would no
law enforcement and doesn respect rule of law doesn respect peaceful protests in our system he respects only raw power what s in his own self interest a call for violence to do so and there is no dog whistl here he is just calling for violence, in for people to get in a lo of trouble it s, wrong and it should be able to come together as a nation republican an democratic alike and, say it s wrong an we re getting on with. it speaker, mccarthy as you know called trump s arrest i that righteous abuse of powe he also said he is directing relevant committees trul investigate federal funds bein used to support our democracy. now, let s take a list of hous minority leader hakeem jeffrie told me in the last hour it is not clear to me wha committee the speaker may be referring to perhaps the so-calle weaponization committee. which is really more appropriately named. and the committee to protect
even though, healed amanda this is the oath of loyalt he ll demand from al republicans. support man this, mccarthy already has. are you in the ring with me. i was gonna say i m with you on. this i think republicans are all about projection when they re coming out an saying the weaponization o government, they re projecting that that s exactly what the intend to do with the powe that they currently have danny, let me play for you thi soundbite from donald trump attorney in this, who is wit my colleague karim alber earlier this week. watch this defense argument. even if you put in your cap accord i ll use me and - i thought a car and i wrote, purchased a horse. that s inaccurate, that s a li maybe. but there s no crime there because this filing was not fo the purpose of influencing a election there wasn t something being hidden, and no obligation to disclose this to an election campaign committee at all does that legal argumen hold water for the election la
that s what he would b attacking. i thought it was extremely alarming sometimes you cover countries that have either sor of democracies that are unde threat or authoritarian regime or a transfer between the two, they will talk about purging security services. loyalty in the securit services the most importan thing, because that fundamentally where the powe of the state lies, right i thought of that phrase purging the security services, which is the kind of raise you associate with these kind of rosy regimes, wind with this clip about the deep state. take a listen. the state department, the defense bureaucracy, the intelligence services, and all of the rest, need to b completely overhauled an reconstituted to fire the deep state hers and put america first. this is a guy who tried the first ever coup in the country announcing that he wil undertake a purge of the security services to replace them all with people he is