a lot of people think of saysee petersen when they think of this case, this drew petersen says. that s not what we are about to litigate here. it s indeed kathleen savio who was found in a bathtub and her death was ruled an accident. so, arthur how do you think they are going to go about this. in terms of the evidence that they have in this case? well, first of all when you re having a news conference don t wear dark sunglasses, criminal defense attorneys. martha: it makes them look a little shady. it does. i m not even making a joke about it. i was taught that early on. when you re spoking t speaking to the media, people want to see your eyes. you re asking the jurors to trust you, to believe in you that you re going to give them evidence that could prove to them beyond a reasonable doubt that the circumstances regarding this woman s death leads them to the conclusion that he s the