secretary pompeo never talked about the 25th amendment, not even once. sorry, i missed the beginning, a spokesperson for secretary pompeo says that he never had a single conversation about the 25th amendment, not even once. i asked this person, okay, can i quote you by name? can i say a spokesperson xxx said this? no, no, no, just keep it a spokesperson. it was a lie. they knew it was a lie. and they only pompeo mnuchin hasn t denied anything. pompeo denied it simply because he got a call from mar-a-lago, you know, saying what is going on here. all right, the new book is betrayal: the final act of the trump show . up next, an author moved back to the u.s. and took to the road to investigate what happened to his country since that fateful day of september 11th, 2001. what he found is the focus of his latest book. and we ll talk about that next on morning joe. st book.