the thing is that you can talk about these things and joe manchin can go up and do an event in new hampshire and no labels can get moving and yet these things always seem to stall out disappointing people. amy walter of the political report has been tweeting caution from thinking a third party will emerge. one of the big issues is ballot access. you have to actually be on the ballot. no labels is working on that but not quite there yet. it takes a lot of organization and money. you think about third-party challenges. typically they ve succeeded mainly in a spoiler role. democrats angry are nader in 2000 and republicans ross perot. the perot example, very-well funded and successful executive, and he got 10 to 15% but couldn t get over the line. bill: karl rove is writing about this.
the joe manchins, the robert f. kennedy, juniors, they re all in the same bucket, just running to be here with david and i as political commentators or to find an exit ramp. david, democrats have been worried for quite some time about the potential for this group, no labels, to play a spoiler role in 2024, splitting the democratic vote, even just enough of the democratic vote, say they take 5% of it for joe manchin, and it would hand the election to trump or desantis. senator bob corker of tennessee said that concern much ado about nothing, saying the last thing that this group wants to do is be known as the group that elected donald trump. what do you think? listen, i don t think i think senator corker may be underestimating the no labels the seriousness of their efforts and undertaking.
and let another democrat the next generation of democrats come forward. his response was interesting. he said, look, i think we re on the verge of being able to bring the world s democracies together, you know, to face this challenge from the autocracy it is. notice, he didn t talk about domestic policy at that point. for him, the overriding challenge is what do you do about a world in which russia is playing the kind of spoiler role it is, china is rising, and i think you re right, jim, her worries a lot, if donald trump were to come into power, that battle against the autocracies would not take place in the same way. the united states would not be bringing together the democracies. after all, trump often says he has a great relationship with putin and constantly criticizing nato.
accidentally today. russia s position here? that s been the claim that they are supporting the rapid support forces, the smaller of the two. the rsf is taking on the army vogner is playing a spoiler role trying to gain access and they want key resources and a good degree of corruption that comes along with it as well. i am not surprised that they are involved here. dana: let s move to this. i woke up and saw russia accidentally bombed its own city. general keane early whyer today. we got tens of thousands of additional fighters that will be added to the 35 brigades that ukraine has. they will take some decisive territory when this offensive begins and make progress. you can bank on it in my judgment. dana: mistakes do happen in war. this is a real own goal so to