may have tried to tamp down the theory that the virus escaped from a chinese lab. here s senior congressional correspondent chad pergram. reporter: the channel con densities it has evidence that dr. anthony fauci tried to curb discussion that a lab leak sparked the pandemic. sub committee chair man brad within strop obtained messages from fauci deputy david writing tony doesn t want his fingerprints on origin s stories. what would be the reason for not having a scientific debate? for wanting to squash one of the potential theories that exist? reporter: fauci has historically pushed back against the lab leak theory. the evidence very strongly, very strongly points to this being a natural occurrence of a jump from an animal species to a human. reporter: but other scientists accuse fauci of scientific spin. the conspiracy here really was on the other side, which was to really get a single narrative to get a spillover event.
and the basis for their analysis and then i d like each agency to also make commentary on the alternative agencies analysis, because two of the agencies clearly say this came from the lab. four of them that they still think it came from nature although i will argue there s absolutely no scientific evidence that we ve gotten to support the spillover event, when everyone says follow the science, show me the science there is no science for spill over events right now, and it s really just disappointing, because we are at risk for another pandemic. rachel: right. if we can t learn from this first pandemic, we re going to repeat the problem. rachel: i couldn t agree with you more and i think the purpose of this very vague report was to make sure there were no consequences for anthony fauci or for the chinese, who should be held responsible financially and reputationally, for the 7 million people who died of covid and all of the economic destruction that ensued in the aftermath.
others to share more information, more data about the origins. but that does not mean that a lack of transparency or even lack of collaboration in many cases means that this virus came from a lab accident. so there are many data gaps on all sides. it s important to keep an open mind and follow a scientific process to get at a clear answer that s going to be meaningful and helpful for the future. how can we use this to better prepare for what may be a next virus? it s important to understand that a pandemic pathogen organisms can emerge from nature, and they are evolving in animal species around the world. we see a lot of opportunity for transition of those pathogens from an animal to human. we see the spillover event
strongly, very strongly points to this being a natural occurrence of a jump from an animal species to a human. pete: in your opinion, is he being 100% honest and transparent? no, i think people mow that i disagree with tony the on this pretty aggressively. i think that his approach has really been antithetical to science. normally when science has taken a, a approaches a problem, we have different high post if cease, and we rigorously debate them. this has been much more aggressive in forming a narrative which, unfortunately, nih has been very important in leading that narrative that somehow this was a spillover event. i think people know i think as a clinical virologist it s much more like lie that education happened many a laboratory. and the ultimate ideology of this pandemic was
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