that s the good news. we do have a spending debate that is going to be happening here in the fall still. so we ll still get to talk about budgets and spending caps then. but that was really one of the hang-ups last night in the senate as they went round for round on 11 amendment votes. it was slow, it took several hours for the senate to pass this. by senate standards, having 11 votes that were around 10 or 11 minutes each is quite fast. nevertheless they came in ahead of the deadline and they didn t have to work the weekend. jose? peter, you write in your new piece about this deal, biden s approach was decidedly old school in a new school era. what do you mean by that? well, look, biden s been around for half a century in washington. he s seen deals and crises like this come and go. he s been a part of many of them. and he was very patient in how he approached this. he wasn t going to get rushed into anything by the republicans, he into that nobody would get serious until the dead
credit rating suffered we re america, we pay our bills. let s not play politics with the full faith and credit of the united states. so where s the room for negotiation on this if there is any? is it too vague to negotiate on it do you wait until their vote to see if they can get it through could republicans argue democrats have done the same thing by adding on their own, you know, pet policies or programs they want to cut? mika, it s simple, i worked on the hill for 14, 15 years on these various spending deals i was the top staffer on the appropriations committee guess what, in a bipartisan way, every year, talk about what is the appropriate spending level for every single program let s do that. we have a process to do that why are we holding default, the possibility of default hostage for a spending debate we have to have with each other we just did it in december both parties came together, funded the government, decided
increase with less spending over the next decade. sandra: so we have been there before. it worked. sandra: negotiations got through them last time. i think we will get there today. not the same as 2011, i was advising the president at that time. one, the republicans and the gop have a four seat majority, back then north of 20. so they don t have the same tools to have this argument. one, we should cut spending but pay our bills, pay our bills, the debt ceiling and i would love to see every senator and congressman, up and down vote on every line item. i think we have to cut it. we have been fiscally irresponsible but it s not a debt ceiling debate, it s a spending debate. during 2011, continuing resolution, we had pay force. i think we should pay for things. i agree with that, but not the full faith and credit of the government at risk. that s not the debate. sandra: the janet yellen quote is the core, slamming the
separate votes on each appropriations package. isn t that the proper place to have a spending debate, not playing with the full faith and credit of the united states government? well, look. congress has been broken. that s what john mccain said when he gave a thumbs down. he said we ve got to get back to regular order. regular order is to pass 12 different appropriations bills. i think we have to have the debate whenever and wherever on the house floor to the federal debt.
to keep much of the federal government open. $45 billion of that is additional aid to ukraine and that s on top of nearly 68 billion already approved in military and economic help. spending debate in congress, some senators have tried to include an extension of title 42, pandemic area health authority allows border agents to expel certain migrants immediately. it was supposed to expire yesterday. but the supreme court temporarily kept it in place. the senate is scheduled to open up business today at 8:00 a.m. back to you. brian: so much going on there. thanks, rich, appreciate it. think about this. if you want to really back up and examine the foreign policy of president biden, if we don t humiliate ourselves by going by his plan to get out of afghanistan, leaving all our people behind, what a disaster it was, watching the kabul airport fall, within weeks the russians were welling up troops at the ukrainian border and sit there and went in. they say nato is divided and