house doors, you are fightin bogus immunity claims to prevent you from having to tel the truth to the courts and to the american people. that, it s just it s unforgivable to me. and pence is such a tragic figure because he runs aroun the great iron dinner, afrai of running into anyone who has a spine. and the guy just can t seem to be comfortable with the fact that he actually did d something right once on one day, on january 6th he did save help save our democracy. for whatever reason, he is not comfortable owning it. instead, he s trying t triangulate and calculate more than revenue jean, and he s no even really good at it that brings me back to wha trump said today about pence which is itself also nonsensical. his claim is pence is to blame for january 6th because penc should have thrown out the election, and through to the state legislatures what kind of bad argument is
iowa as he works to cement his hold over republican primary voters trump s comes just after his lates nemesis, florida governor ro desantis make stops in the first caucus state on friday desantis has yet to announce a official white house run but h pointed to his administratio in florida as a quote, blueprint for the rest of th nation we will talk about tha blueprint later in the show. meantime, trump s vice president mike pence is callin out his former boss for januar 6th. at a dinner in washington just last night, pence said trump was wrong when he asked penc to overturn the 2020 election, so that trump is just part of a series o legal wars with the former president, overshadowing the upcoming gop primary battle. tomorrow afternoon trump s former lawyer michael cohe will testify before a gran jury in new york the investigation over alleged hush money play to adult fil star stormy daniels before the 2016 election. should be just around th
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supreme court. the endgame was to fake contested outcome, to use frau to claim day where dueling slate of electors, to use penc to sow chaos if you wouldn t us intimidation or violence to go along, and - and i say this seriously, alex and i try not to overstate because then, where s th credibility? this was closer to working and i think people realize today indeed. i totally agree with you already. and barbara, you know, one o the theories that has brough up repeatedly, if you believ the transcripts of the mos that are in this final repor is that a lot of people who ar reaching out to the trump whit house, effectively saying they pursue the independent state legislatures theory, that they kind of run with this deeply conservative fringe, you know, legal theory that steak that just later s didn t have t listen to state supreme courts and could basically do wha they want to city elections an sending electors to congress o to be certified in congress. what we know right now is th
they need in this hour of need. great to have you with us this morning. with regard to this fear of setting off world war iii, this is obviously very prominent in the minds of president biden as he is the leader of the free world at this point. how would you navigate that? how would you put in place allowing the migs for poland fo example, creating as you say which sounds like a great idea berlin airlift because we can t stand what we re seeing happening in these places completely cut off in 2022. but how do you see that in term of navigating it and not tripping that world war iii wire ? taking first i would do it the way we did it in the trunk penc administration which was we armed ukraine. we gave them the ability, letha