well i think it would look like a vote in favor of impeaching the president. and then we would shift to the trial in the senate. and that s where the real battle would be. would there be enough votes to impeach? i also think the president is counting heavily on his alliance with the supreme court. because there are five conservative justices on the supreme court. and injury he makes a mistake doing that. because when he tries to upset the balance of power between the various branchs of government, the supreme court is looking at their role in government also. and they require cooperation of the president in handing down their cases. so you could wind up having an alliance between the supreme court and the congress against a president who will not cooperate with anybody. and that spells impeachment. i see that as the primary danger area for the president all right, gentlemen good to have you both with us. and thank you for the perspective and expertise. all right. joe biden makes