it could be military, an economic conflict, both. this may be our last chance to get that right. in the context of that, they are large ly making significant gais by taling $300 billion a year of american intellectual property through straight out espionage. you ve led the movement to e reverse the administration s position on zte. yep. the manufacturer there that you believe is a national security risk. do you expect to win that fight in. i hope so because if we can t win that fight, we re not going to win the bigger one. zte is an important company, but it s small compared to some other the others china poses. it poses a threat to american telecommunication. they make routers and all components in our the telecommunication system. once you embed yourself in the telecommunication of a nation, it s a threat. you didn t find the spectacle