joining us now is nina turner, president of a political action committee that formed out of the bernie sanders campaign. thank you for joining me this morning. alice, if i can begin with you, as you know, the president and his advisers have repeated a number of specious claims, statistics, one of which is that there is a crisis at the border. i want to show the border number crossings. they are down to a fraction of where they were in 2000 and several years ago. if it is a crisis, why does the trump administration have to keep using figures that are repeatedly debunked in. that s a good question. the facts should speak for themselves if this is such a crisis. is this an issue of national interest? yes. is it an interest of national security? yes. is it an issue of national emergency? i don t think so.
then he says, when people get in line that have absolutely no right to vote and they go around in circles, sometimes they go to their car. put on a different hat. put on a different shirt. come in and vote again. it s really a disgrace. what is s going on. what s a disgrace is saying something like that with zero proof. now, the idea that fraud is a widespread problem in this country, we know that s not true. there have been studies that have examined a billion votes. what s going on here? let s take it to the debateers. jennifer grant home and rick santorum. brother santorum, do you know from whence the president is deriving this wisdom about the people walking in circles with the changed hats and shirts? i do not, but that doesn t mean it s never happened. i m sure it has happened. why are you sure it has happened? look, the bottom line is people do commit voter fraud.
the man says people are changing hats and shirts and walking in circles, and you say, yeah, i don t know anything about that, but i m sure it happened at some point. really, you re her? you re really sure that that happened at some point? rick i feel bad for rick. quality time in the confessional this saturday morning, let me tell you. look you again, rick? yes, father. i agree with you that the president has wrongly over exaggerated this problem. but that doesn t minimize the fact that there is a problem. it s a serious issue and it is one that look voter fraud is not a serious issue. integrity in our elections is a serious issue. having laws in place to make sure fraud is minimized is an important thing. that s what republicans have tried to do in this country for a long time. if we have those laws in place, you re putting sunglasses on and a hat, you can t vote again. you have to show an i.d.
save hundreds a year with xfinity mobile. call, click or visit a store today. don t be a sucker, a vibrant vindication of our call for you to avoid falling for piffle posed as fact. tonight the curious case of the president trying to get you to believe in voter fraud. here s his latest offering of offal. when people get in line that have absolutely no right to vote and they go around in circles, sometimes they go to their car, put on a different hat, put on a different shirt, come in and vote again. nobody takes anything. it s really a disgrace. that s what s going on. where? when? no proof. white house, no response. the only thing anything like it is this tripe from infowars. now, before you say, how could you even mention infowars, remember, the white house used doctored video from those fools
i mean, people commit fraud on a variety of different things. people lie, cheat and steel every day. if you don t think they do it during an election, you re deluding your several. yourself. the question is do we have laws in place and systems in place to limit that. and that s one of the things republicans have been all about, making sure there is integrity in the voting process, and i do agree with you that i don t think it helps anybody, the president or our party or anybody to go out and make specious claims about voter fraud that are unsubstantiated because it s a serious business and i do believe it does exist. i know the cases are prosecuted. i ve talked to lots of attorney generals who have prosecuted vote fraud cases. we need to be serious about this and we need to be serious about the integrity of the vote. i hear you. you may have spoken to many attorney generals attorneys jan who have prosecuted cases, but they haven t prosecuted many because we know from the studies