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The opportunity to enter a plea. Throughout our special coverage, we will dig deep into this latest indictment. This latest push, claiming the indictment violates his right to free speech. They are suggesting moving it to west virginia. Lets bring in our reporters and our panel. Ken dilanian and garrett haake, outside the Courthouse Blocks from here. Former fbi General Counsel andrew weissmann. Former u. S. Attorney joyce vance. Jen psaki. Take us through what we will see this afternoon. Reporter this is both a surrender and an arraignment. We expect mr. Trump will enter the courthouse through a tunnel. He will be processed, we are told, because he has to be booked for each one of these. He will be fingerprinted through a digital machine. His mugshot wont be taken. They will use an existing photo. He may be asked some questions, including his age. Then at some point he will make his way to the Magistrate Judges courtroom. Shes not the judge presiding over the case. She will hear the ar

Transcripts for MSNBC Katy Tur Reports 20240604 19:06:00

happen. so andrew, how much of that in georgia might depend on what we see from judge chutkan on august 28th? so, august 28th in the d.c. case is sort of the whole ball of wax. it is what is the date she is going to pick. and we are about to get on thursday the defense position. it s not going to be a surprise that their view is going to be after the election if not later. that s true for, i mean, most defendants don t want to go to trial. they want to put it off as far as possible. and we ll see jack smith s response. i think something that is a bit of a gift that was given to jack smith and frankly the judge if she s inclined to have a date that is prior to either the republican convention or the general election, is donald trump s continued attack on judges, on witnesses. let me just give you one quick example. he told a witness in a truth

Transcripts for MSNBC Katy Tur Reports 20240604 19:12:00

these tapes prove to be invaluable. you think about the classified documents case where he s on tape bragging about allegedly a classified document he has in his presence that s not supposed to be shown outside of of a setting. also, of course the carroll tape. i think these are just catnip for prosecutors pause it s helpful for a jury to hear him in his own words. if you go back to the raffensperger tape, hearing him and his intonation is different. hearing how he s actually applying the pressure and not just saying go ahead and dig up some vote, but the context around those statements is really important and valuable for a jury to hear. one of the fascinating things is if this goes to trial as we think it will and they play those tapes, donald trump having to listen to himself andrew and wanting to respond and put it in some different context than the

Transcripts for MSNBC Katy Tur Reports 20240604 19:31:00

innocence. to be clear, if he wants to have a press conference where he talks about why he s innocent, that is allowed. there are certain rules in d.c. that he could be violating but that s generally within the first amendment. that s not the issue. but it is notable to me that that s the forum he s choosing. he did not do that. you played the clip earlier of pat cipollone saying essentially where are the facts. rudy giuliani had a bar disciplinary proceeding where they said where are the facts to show that you should not be disbarred for making these claims. it didn t appear there. it didn t appear in any of the over 60 cases in court. so it is notable to me that donald trump is trying to do this in a form where there s no cross-examination. there s no jury. it s going to be completely one sided. and to neil s point, as if this really is the case, make a forum where there actually is

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prosecutor is will be something interesting to watch. one of the tools that a defense lawyer will not have here is the option of putting the client on the stand. and of course, that he could take the stand. there s nothing that prevents that legally. that will be the end of that case. there s, he really cannot take the stand. he did not take the stand when he was accused of rape. he did not come in and talk to us in the special counsel mueller case. he really has way too much baggage to put it in context and say that s not what i meant. that s not what i intended. so a jury in a criminal case will be told that you cannot consider this but they will have no other evidence to refute it. if this case is we have to go. if this is on trial and donald trump starts to watch the ratings, which he loves to watch the ratings. if the ratings are high, that might be a little catnip for donald trump himself. we ll see.

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