words. but it s striking to hear you say that because you are about more than politics. but you have a keen eye for politics. part of what you re saying is that the day trading of how things look pales in comparison to the larger vibe of whether people think you re in it for the right reason and you have guts and are fighting for them or not. yes. and i feel like without i don t think you were complimenting trump, but i think you referred to his ability to make people think that. i want to play more from moore in trumpland to talk about his ability to appear to connect with people. let s take a look at that. whether trump means it or not is kinds of irrelevant because he s saying the things to people who are hurting. that s why every beaten down nameless forgotten working stiff who used to be part of what was called the middle class loves trump. he is the human molotov cocktail that they have been waiting for.
as recently as five minutes before and bill barr s allies are leaking that he s angry and trump is trying to skip over any factual debate and warn of civil war if impeached. he s circling this doctored map with the phrase try to impeach this. as a legal matter, a president, any president pointing to their electoral victory is irrelevant to impeachment. as a political matter, though, we should note it is pretty odd for a president who got fewer votes than his opponent to invoke his losing margin at a time like. this it s almost like reminding any wavering members of congress, hey, remember i have a historically thin mandate to be in office right now. that s the politics. let s focus on the facts. the inability of the trump message machine to get to the factual defense here, well, this is pretty telling. it includes the spokespersons, the cabinet secretaries and the president himself.
out there s a lot of coverage of politics in the trump era that says, okay, where are the republicans? but we have to be really accurate and precise and fair. i think something that is also different about this scandal is seeing the republicans, including in the senate, where you have many members who are not going to be up for re-election before donald trump. they re going to be facing a post 2020 environment if they re up in 22 and 24 who are starting to sound very different than they did on other stories. i want to read more from senator grassley, who i mentioned is on judiciary and knows his way around the legal issues. he said something that was very careful but basically a rebuke to trump. with regard to the whistle-blower this person appears to have followed the whistle-blower protection laws and ought to be heard out and protected. he goes on to say no one should be making judgments or pronouncements without hearing from the whistle-blower first and carefully following up on
that has been made. she committed murder. i don t care if she s a police officer. i don t care who would have done something like that, they deserve to be convicted. so i m pleased she was convicted. she didn t have a good defense at all. i wanted to get your reaction as you know, it s a big story. chairwoman maxine waters, always appreciate your time. hope you ll come back on the beat. well, i absolutely will. just invite me back and i m happy to come and join you. we ll be watching you and watching your committee. i want to turn now to another big guest. the great michael moore is here on impeaching trump, democratic strategy and some of the other large policy issues when we re back in just 30 seconds. nds.whee nothing gets in the way of doing great work. where an american icon uses the latest hr tools to stay true to the family recipe. where a music studio spends less time on hr and payroll, and more time crafting that perfect sound. where the nation s biggest party stor
investigate, the higher number is for impeach and remove when that question is asked. it s amazing. and the democrats, god, i hope they yes, trump is on the run. they need to chase him down. they should not pull back now. they have got to you know, it s like the democrats to me have been like they can t figure like the french during world war ii. you re either the government where you re going to go along to get along and the nazis are happy with the job you re doing so they leave you alone. or you re in the french resistance and the democrats need to be in the french resistance right now. save our democracy. this is very dangerous. well let me just say why. briefly. i want to ask you about guns too. it s dangerous because this particular crime that we have witnessed is he was trying to affect the election next year. right. there is no greater sin other