a major party who has never held an elected office or a political office, like taft or hoover or an elected office or a high military command with the one exception of wendell wilke, but he had he took four ballots to win. they didn t have many primaries then, and he had, as we now know, practically no chance of defeating president roosevelt. this is a phenomenon and a phenomenon of people angry at misgovernment, and they have some reason to consider it to be so. both parties. the bushes and the clintons. jon meacham, when you look at this anger, put it in some historical context for us. you know, the word i would use more than anger is paranoia. and obviously, we owe that construct to richard hofstetter, who delivers a lecture in 1963, it became a cover story in harper s. this month in 1964, and ultimately a book, in which he
kick. but the kickererize more accurate. let me ask you what very respected polling expert at princeton university says. he says you guys on 538 are overcounting polls. huffington post says you are actually deliberately unskewing data in a way that, again, pl e places your thumb on the finger for trump. not doing it for trump, but the effect is to overrepresent trump s advantages. sam says that most important thing you should look at, first of all, he thinks this model makes no sense. the polls should reflect all the fundamentals. however people are feeling about the economy, however they feel about a second, a third term for a party, all that is reflected in who they say they want to vote. if you do a polls only model, which he argues is the most accurate, and he does 76
clinton could do as president is work across the aisle with paul ryan, say let s figure out what we can do. let s try to marginalize the extreme factions in our party, whether it s the freedom caucus on one side or elizabeth warren on another. the problem is, you know, people say they want centrism, but somehow, it s the extremes that get elected. the extremes that make the noise and send the thousands of e-mails. if hillary clinton is elected, she will be a great president. if she can break with this polarization in american politics and try to govern as her husband did with all of the prompts, that was, we remember that as a housian period in american history of 3%, 4% growth, very low unemployment, a technological revolution, america at the top of the world. that was a period when america was unmistakably, undeniably great. also the period where the republican party tried to impeach a sitting president. i would disagree. incredibly trivial next to
joining in me new york, bret stephens is a foreign affairs columnist for the wall street journal. katrina vanden heuvel is the editor and publisher of the nation, j.d. vance has the best seller hillbilly elegy, a book that many believe explains the world of the trump voter. trump economic adviser stephen moore is supposed to be joining us from chicago. we re hoping he joins us. we ll have him jump in. what is going to happen, bret? describe for me the scenarios after tuesday. well, if i make a prediction now, it will be, and it s mistaken, it will be replayed endlessly against me, but what i m hoping will happen is mrs. clinton will win the electoral college and popular vote decisively. the reason i hope that and i say this as someone who has voted republican all my life, is because i think the wing of the party that donald trump represents needs to be rebuked. people have to understand in the
how good the 90s were for the united states. for all of the political but to bret s point, the 90s were very good on the surface, but there were already serious planted seeds that caused a lot of problems over the next couple decades. i think what either for hillary clinton to govern effectively or for trump to win to govern effectively, they need to start with a massive dose of humility. the recognition if they won, they won because the other pa party s candidate was so bad, and with that humility, hopefully will come some measure of constructive government. without it, i agree with bret that we re not going to have a very effective policy or politics in the next few years. this election largely was about a revolt against a discredited failed sdb r establishment. brought us a financial crisis, the iraq war. i think we need to think hard about that because we can go different ways in this country, go toward a trump kind of authoritarianism or what bernie sanders showed speaking