threatened to hold the fbi director in contempt of congress. cnn s sarah murray joins us now. i m a little reticent to ask you this question, but topics wise, we ve seen public commentary and bluster from republicans on this panel specifically, what do we expect them to go after wray on? it s possible you ll see more bluster today. jim jordan congress? jim jordan, the chair of the judiciary committee has made it clear the fbi leadership is his number one punching bag and his chief criticism the fbi is too politicized particularly against conservatives, which is interesting, because a lot of the fbi frankly, is made up of conservatives. i think we re going to hear about some of the high-profile investigations. i think we ll see wray hammered over special council durham s report saying there never should have been a full investigation into the tries to russia. also likely to hear some of their other complaints, the notion that conservative parents
costic terms. the return was trying a reality we might get a window when president zelenskyy and biden meet later today, tension with ukraine and this ongoing conflict. on the ground there do you hear signs of that? is there some frustration right now? reporter: phil, you know very well from covering the white house that jake sullivan is a very measured guy, and you could see in his response to this activist that he was bristling at this accusation that the u.s. is not doing enough. i think this exchange between the activist and jake sullivan is essentially redux of what we ve seen between the u.s. and leadership, albeit more polite way with ukraine asking more than they are willing to give. what we saw sullivan responding what biden said earlier ukraine
elliot, if we could step back to some degree, talking yesterday, you need to contextualize tuberville s comments because he has a history not just on this specific issue, which he s been talking about for some reason i can t quite figure out now for a couple of months but on the campaign trail last year, made some comments that were immediately kind of refuted by republicans who are uncomfortable with the racist tone. from a bigger picture perspective, this isn t happening in a vacuum. unlike someone s right to a fair trial, phil, this is not something i m going to both sides. look, let s define what white nationalism is, and it s the belief in a white ethno state, the belief race mixing itself threatens the united states of america and there ought to be a white majority in america. now none of those views are actually illegal to have, and maybe that s the point senator
tube tuberville. that s are toxic views in civil society. if you notice late in the interview with kaitlan, if you re going to do away with most white people, then we re going to have problems. and i m genuinely curious as to what audience he s speaking to there. if there is a silent majority of whites in america who truly are threatened by the idea of race mixing or a non-white majority. now he brought up all this stuff about identity politics and it s a slur and people are being called racist when they re not and you can have a debate or discussion about that, but he really did seem to be tapping in or thinking he was tapping into something and speaking for a constituency in america that s very frightening if it does exist. yeah, like tapping into that. pat buchanan, remember ran for president, back in 2000 wrote a book called the death of the west.
correct. the senator did finally relent and say white nationalists are indeed racist. that was 180-degree turn from what he told cnn s kaitlan collins monday night. my opinion of a white nationalist, to me, is an american. it s an american. let s bring back elliot williams and lauren fox. striking to me yesterday it felt like the days we were in the halls together during the trump administration every day you would track down republicans and ask them about trump s latest tweet. they never wanted to talk about it. they were infuriated it was getting in the way of whatever the they wanted to talk about. this time it wasn t the former president, it was one of the members of their conference. right. and you can expect when there s a president that you are supposed to be supporting, it s one thing. when it s just a fellow rank and file member you sit with at lunch, it s a very different thing. i knew that this was starting to turn yesterday when i talked to senator john thune, the