czech republic, and slovenia, nato nations all, made a very risky trip, train trip the lesson to ukraine. so there is support for president zelensky. what do you think of that? i thought that was one of the most courageous things that i ve seen done by a diplomat, head of state, a politician. that was awesome. and i think was very encouraging to the ukrainian people. i think it was encouraging to zelensky himself, obviously. and, while not, wish we could see that kind of courage throughout europe and not just with three countries. neil: general, i ve talked to a lot of ukrainians, parliament members staying behind and fighting the good fight, many country men and women who are doing the same thing, into a man or woman they have a scenario they hope pans out. believing they can beat russian
they were killed while hiding in a church. these are the kinds of stories that refugees from bucha are bringing and telling us in poland. andrea. and what s going to happen to these women? have they found placement? are they going beyond poland? staying there? what is their future? reporter: they re waiting right now. they are part of the homes for ukrainians program in the u.k. so, they have a family, they have a home that s going to host them but they re waiting on visas. they re staying at a refugee center near the border, just waiting on that paper drz work. they say they want to go home. this is what we hear from every refugee. but they don t know when that will be possible and they re terrified of what their home town will look like when they do return, andrea. dasha burns, thank you so much for all your reporting there.
what will it require to sustain ukraine over such a trajectory? that ought to be the question that secretary blinken begins to talk about with his counterparts. and mike mcfall, is there any chance that the other powers are going to agree to be guarentors, which means boots on the ground. possibly, that s right. the way i understand negotiations, including ones not formal but informal proposals. president zelenskyy s been very forward and innovative and i would say creative in two major ways. one, he talked about neutrality or security guarantee of the u.n. security council and a few other members. poland, turkey and israel, i think is still on the list. that is a very hard thing.
a function of what we saw take place, that is more evidence of war crimes there. this does not appear to be a direct response to that. we heard from jake sullivan just yesterday in a briefing room, saying they continue to work on ways that they will respond but this appears to bethe next in line of a long line of sanctions from this administration and their effort to further crackdown on vladimir putin. well, peter alexander, thanks to you and the rest of the white house team. thanks for that reporting. when we come back, survival story. after the nightmares inside bucha and other ukrainian towns and cities, they manage to escape to safety in poland. describing what they saw first-hand for the rest of the world to see. you re watching a special edition of andrea mitchell reports and we re live in brussels on msnbc. reports and we re live in brussels on msnbc.
a ukrainians fleeing to poland are describing the horrors they witnessed themselves in bucha. sasha burns joins us from southeast poland where she s been speaking to refugees. you spoke to several women who escaped from bucha and some a week ago. what are they telling you? many of those fleeing ukraine come to this train station near the border. still every day more children, more families coming and seeking safety and every day more heartbreaking stories come through this train station. but right mow some of the most horrific tales are out of bucha. i met two sisters from that region who just arrived to safety a week ago. and they shivered while they told me what they experienced. i want you to hear just a little bit of my conversation with ena.