capital city of kyiv. good afternoon, everybody. i m yasmin vossoughian in for hallie jackson. i want to get right to capitol hill with our reporters. and we re joined by former alabama senator doug jones. so bring us up to date as to what we know as we learn about this emergency testimony we ll be hearing tomorrow. reporter: yasmin, it s fair to say we have more questions than answers. in will be a hearing tomorrow afternoon at 1:00 p.m. which they will present evidence and witness testimony. they don t elaborate who this witness is, why it s so significant that they re rushing it, why they are bringing the committee back from a planned recess to hold this hearing and get this information out. we don t know the answer to those questions. that s why it s that s why it seems a significant departure from the committee s protocol which they announce the witnesses well in advance. a source telling our colleagues that new evidence is coming to light on an almost daily basis. t
conversation about roe and the former vice president urged weighing roe. pence just needs an issue set that he can really dig into that it s not about january 6th or trump or anything. he s comfortable talking about abortion, and this has been the issue with the former vice president is how to distinguish himself and really kind of take the lead when it s evangelical voters in 2024. he views south carolina as key of having any chance in 2024 and in iowa, and he thinks that by going to the state he s spoken at churches and evangelical events in south carolina and focus on the family in south carolina and lots of evangelical voters who he is trying to court to. the problem he has is in a lot of these polls are well-polling and voters are skeptical of him
he plans to go to state capitols across the country and help fight for stricter laws now that it s up to the states and be involved in a lot of these states and then you can have a whole other range of republicans who put out statements praising the ruling, but were not quite as full throttled as mike pence and are assessing the political ramifications where they might be and they each have kind of their own calculous, i guess, so to speak. the former vice president has been in the headline recently because of his association with the january 6th hearings. it s not necessarily something that he likes to be in the headlines about especially as he s trying to court any kind of former trump supporter, right? i want to read a little bit from your reporting about how pence is digging in on this abortion issue saying pence has stopped before friday s ruling including a south carolina crisis center, and at a church leading a
because the former president has criticized him and he s not gained a lot of steam. his folks think that might change and the chief of staff told me repeatedly on what he did on january 6th and more and more republicans will come to see that he did the right thing and that he didn t have another choice and the private calculation among these republicans is they hope or think that donald trump will continue to fade a little bit, and will leave room for them. so mike pence is working quite hard. he s doing dozen of events and he thinks that evangelical voters in south carolina and iowa are critical to gaining momentum for a potential bid. i guess it depends on which voters they re talking about, josh, we thank you for your good reporting on this. thanks for watching this hour of msnbc. deadline: white house starts right after a quick break. ouse s ouse s right after a quick break. the moment you become an expedia member, you can instantly start saving on your travels.