lenders with one of his long time accountants used to prepare these documents testifying in recent weeks before a grand jury. prosecutors have also interviewed a former managing director who arranged hundreds of millions of dollars in loans to donald trump. giving us a second line of inquiry, new questions. as investigators zero in on these documents, the main question emerging is whether the former president inflated the value of his assets to defraud the people lending him money. let s bring in chuck roseenberg. i read all this and you and i traded messages as i tried to understand this. i thought we already knew this. i thought michael cohen under threat of lying to congress already answered these questions in a line of questioning. he made clear that yes, donald
because she sent not a message. she simply signalled that she expects that the january 6th committee will send a criminal referral on the former president of the united states to the justice department at the end of these proceedings. right now, we are talking about contempt charges with witnesses who are refusing to testify. liz cheney indicated she believes they will have evidence to make this referral asking d.o.j. to prosecute the former president. 1512 is an obstruction statute. charlottely, the evidence she is talking about might be suggestive of a conspiracy to interfere with the vote count, a conspiracy to interfere with the functioning of government. it looks like this committee is going to do the opposite of bob mueller did. you will remember that mueller, in his report, infamously said he was restricted, he couldn t bring charges against a sitting president. so he was writing a road map for congress. sounds like congress is going to
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workers. it s people who are people living with disabilities. it is women of all races who all are trying to contest for an inclusive society. are coming together and demanding these pieces of legislation pass and what i think we hope to see from the biden administration as a little lyndon johnson who worked on getting back in the voting rights act passed in 1965 by becoming his own lobbiest and by going directly to the american people as well as directly to congress and saying we re going to get this done. that s exactly what our friend and colleague has called for. that the president publicly push manchin and sinema on a carve out of the filibuster and or use his bully pulpit to bill support for that. when we come back, three
return the favor and refer charn s to charges to the justice department at some point next year. pete truck, your thoughts? i think joyce is exactly right. what i think we are seeing is we are beginning to get an appreciation that despite all the evidence we have seen, there is still a tremendous amount of information that we don t know. they are all indications that this hidden information is particularly damning. that s what is most concerning to me about the allegations the use of signal. it was clear that meadows texting capability was working just fine. but a member of congress said i don t know to put whatever it is i have to say to you in plain text g. to signal. why that is important, the first is this is the kind of things that spies and criminals and terrorists use to hide activities from law enforcement and from prosecutors. it demonstrates, one arc state of mine that the people understood whatever it was they