people win an award and it might be their one and only time and their acceptance speech gets cut off because they need to have room for yet another production number. i do think this loses sight of what it means to the people who are there. i do take your point. it s always nice to have a good old-fashioned song and dance man in that position. i think it s great. let me ask you about the obamas. this is the second time politicians have gotten to the awards. bill clinton was involved with the golden globes. i think if you look at a map of this country, after a presidential election, it s pretty clear the way it works. you ve got new york and the new england states, the northeastern states. and somewhere around michigan or illinois it stops. and then you have this vast amount of flyover country if you will, and then there is l.a. and san francisco. and here it seems to be another one of these marriages of the bicoastal, the left coast against the east coast. republicans don t the this.
actual show, it looked like they were trying to be the tonys, or win a tony as our tv critic said today. i always think it s sad when people win an award and it might be their one and only time and their acceptance speech gets cut off because they need to have room for yet another production number. i do think this loses sight of what it means to the people who are there. i do take your point. it s always nice to have a good old-fashioned song and dance man in that position. i think it s great. let me ask you about the obamas. this is the second time politicians have gotten to the awards. bill clinton was involved with the golden globes. i think if you look at a map of this country, after a presidential election, it s pretty clear the way it works. you ve got new york and the new england states, the northeastern states. and somewhere around michigan or illinois it stops. and then you have this vast amount of flyover country if you will, and then there is l.a. and san francisco. and h
phone call where he s asking mark for $7.5 million. it was like a french fry bag and gave it to michael. an in-joke, well i want you to sprl size this order. he wanted to have money to put in his pocket. to him that was real money. that is like a child. he was, yes. reporter: a man child who couldn t leave fame or family behind. michael was tired of being a song and dance man. he didn t want to perform on stage from the team of the history tour, which was 1995 to 1996. reporter: jackson wanted to be an actor. he wanted to buy the rights of every marvel character before anyone else thought of making them into movies. he wanted to play spider-man. how that would have worked, i don t know. reporter: he wanted to play
for some reason he put it in like a french fry bag and gave it to michael. it became an inside joke. he said, well, i want you to supersize this order. he wanted to have money to put in his pocket. to him that was real money. that is like a child. he was, yes. reporter: a man child who couldn t leave fame or family behind. michael was tired of being a song and dance man. he didn t want to perform on stage from the time well, from the time of the history tour, which was 1995 to 1996. jackson wanted to be an actor. he wanted to buy the rights of every marvel character before anyone else thought of making them into movies. he wanted to play spider-man. how that would have worked, i don t know. reporter: he wanted to play willy wonka. but he didn t get that role either. jackson claimed to be a child trapped in an adult world. he never got to express his sexuality in any sort of reporter: and you think his
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