know. and we we have been to this movie before. you remember when cnn falsely reported that james comey was going to testify that he had not given alert to president trump as trump had been insisting. he was under investigation. they were completely wrong. the testimony ended up being absolutely the reverse. the problem here, reverend, with what s happening, is it has all been behind closed doors. we are only getting drips, drab, leaks and spins from people behind those closed doors. we re not getting any transparency. isn t the problem, amy, and pete i want you to weigh in on this. sondhappen land can say either president told him to say that or there was no quid pro quo and have to explain why it wasn t and put himself right in the middle of the deal? sondland is under oath. that is to tell the truth of what he knows or doesn t know. he doesn t necessarily know