recent round. it is least raising questions for senator ron johnson. and i m joined now by the former republican governor, christine todd whitman. welcome back to the beat. always good to be with you. good to have you. we ve been looking at different aspects of this. one of the striking parts of these hearings is how careful and factual much of it has been including in the testimony. given the issue we re just discussing, i want to play an attorney talking about, at the time on the republican side, where the line was for them on some of these very same plots that i just described. take a listen. i just remember, i either applied or called somebody saying, unless we have litigation pending that is in these states, i don t think this is appropriate. a little back and forth. and i think it was cheeseboro, where i said, all right, just get after it. i m out.
clear what was really coming down the pike, then this die hard trump supporter mind you, this is after the race has been called. trump is the official loser of the election. everyone s getting ready for the transition out here in reality land, and this person had kept fighting on the theory that, yes, you could file some lawful cases. and that s fine. and then this person, not a famous person, just someone else inside trump land testifying about how that s when he realized he needed out. i just remember i either replayed or called somebody saying, unless we have litigate pending in these states i don t think there s appropriatele i got into a little bit of back and forth. i think it was with ken cheesebro where i said, you just get after it. i m out. i m out. that s a die-hard trump lawyer who was willing to go down every road, every case, including all
hours. that will look for the trial, well, if there was a mountain of evidence against oj, the circumstantial bits and pieces piled up against doug bradford amounted to it would be nice if we had a piece of physical evidence. somebody saying, i saw him leaving so-and-so, but we never had those. it s completely circumstantial. lewin was eager to get the trial, but the defense not so much. robert shapiro thought the evidence, in sufficient, to charge don t bradford. so you paper the court with motions, seeking to have the case dismissed, given his age in the lack of new physical evidence. though his request denied, they took time. lots of time. a year went by, then two, then
is going on in ukraine, it s also partly because of the works of this company. it s pretty amazing as you say, you know, however she got such a position to go from being an olympic gymnast to chairwoman of the largest media organization in russia is absurd on its face, but it s an important role, a role that s central to this so certainly from just that i understand your point would deserve to be sanctioned. but the wall street journal reports, andre, the u.s. officials fear sanctioning her would be so deeply personal to putin it would further escalate tensions and be punitive for its own sake because of that. do you think there s merit in that argument? yes, maybe, because at least we know for a fact that putin can be extremely emotional. that s somebody saying, writing anything about this relationship with kabaeva, at least one newspaper was closed down only because they published a story
somebody saying that is too degrading to call it so we re going to call it map, what in the world is happening in america? it makes it sound better. get it right. really, it s not something comfortable to talk about. it s not comfortable conversation to have because we shouldn t be talking about thes things. laura, this isn t pleasant, but we need to know if our tax dollars are going to remove young girls, we need to know if they re going to remove the genitalia of young boys, these are children. and my message to the biden regime is get out of our lives, get out of our homes. these are our children. they call this conspiracy. you know what they re saying in response, they are saying you and others, probably myself, we are spouting conspiracy theory because we are actually quoting these people whether it s on twitter or whether we are