notably outspoken about trump during the campaign. jackie kucinich and solina zito and ron brownstein. jackie, let s talk more about rex tillerson since there are, you know, obviously, conflicting impressions and opinions of him. donald trump supporters, i think, and he, feel isn t it better to have someone who has dealt with vladimir putin, who knows vladimir putin rather than a novelist who doesn t know how to approach this guy? they have a point about that. that s what you ll hear ecoed throughout the campaign and people who do like rex tillerson. this is bigger than him. this is about russia. a pick like rex tillerson,