true. that s because he gave no evidence to back it up. today, edward snowden from russia denied the implication, calling it absurd. so, that leaves his word against congressman rogers. mr. snowed jen exiled in russia, so we re unable to talk to him. we thought we would have better luck with chairman rogers, so we invited him on to the program to tell us what he could on the claim, and he declined, leaving the claim out there totally unsubstantiated. we ve taken public servants on their word before only to find out they weren t telling the truth or were exaggerating. listen to this exchange from senator ron wyden and director of national intelligence james clapper. what i wanted to see is if you could give me a yes-or-no answer to the question does the nsa collect any type of data at all on millions or hundreds of millions of americans? no, sir. it does not? not wittingly. there are cases where they