russia gate on friday. take a look. everybody wants to talk about russia russia russia, but russia doesn t effect anybody. instead of pointing the finger at donald trump jr., saying maybe he is colluding, big word, colluding with the rugs, maybe the rugs were colluding with the russians for information on donald trump. let s get to a story on the other channels, russia russia russia. turns out the russian story is starting to fall apart, looks like she was just a lobbyist and met with members of congress and state department officials and members of the press and washington trying to push this russian adoption thing, right? tamera, it is like the earth to brady bunch. russia russia russia. why is it that you think in this sort of alternate media universe there is no russia gate, doesn t exist. i m going to throw a curve ball, i think we re the ones living in the bubble. i think fox news viewers are
entertainment and appearance and you can get dirt on people and if it looks bad, you just brazen it out in the tabloids. they re not used to this world of national security and law enforcement which is not a game. consequences actually matter. people are very, very careful. it s insane to take that meeting. i think you could stop random people on the street in washington, d.c., and say what do you i good idea that that you re told that russian government wants to help you win the election? are you nuts? call the lawyer right away, call the fbi right away. don t go to that meeting. i think that is good advice for rosa brooks. thank you for being on the show. congressman lu. michelle and herb will be back later on. next up, why russian oligarchs love donald trump. four seconds on the clock, down by one. championship on the line. erin the sharpshooter shanahan fakes left. she s outside of the key, she shoots. .she scores! uh. yes, erin, it is great time to score a deal.
i ve had many people i ve only been in politics for two years, but i ve had many people call up oh, gee, we have information on this factor or this person or frankly hillary. that s very standard in politics. politics is not the nicest business in the world. but it s very standard where they have information and you take the information. rose, i m going go with you on this. do you know of any american that is in politics that you ve ever e encount thaerd wou encountered that would take that meeting? no, it s crazy. maybe in the donald trump world of new york real estate. it is not standard in washington, d.c. i know people in the national security and foreign policy communities that would not accept social invitations to embassy parties because they re so concerned about even the appearance of impropriety. i mean this is i do think this is partly about the gulf between the two different worlds. the trumps and the circle are used to living in this world where it s all about
there may be areas we converge, fighting terrorism might be one. when you draw the conclusion that american people are opposed to the trump administration because of these russian stories, i don t believe that for a moment. i don t think most people really care. i think when you come back to it, it is true, let me finish this point, if i may. it is true that when you look at the blue curtain, the reason why it was penetrated by the republicans is in large part because the democrats ignored people that lost their jobs and by and large felt that washington, d.c. was not responsive. the republican party did respond in some fashion to what was going on. again, to suggest that there s a war going on at the moment, yes, of course our interests and the russian interests are not likely to converge. pointed out in the 19th century, russians have their interests, we have our interests. they are not likely to converge except in certain areas. they are converging in a lot of ways. donald trump b
recently in washington, wanted to meet with the white house, one of the issues being that they have been dealing with rex tillerson while saudi arabia had a relationship with jared kushner. did you get the sense they were able to find a tie, someone to talk to that has some authority. there are all of these stories tillerson tried to resolve the dispute, failed to do it, doesn t seem to have power. is qatar talking to him or do they have a direct line to the white house that s useful? they have multiple chains of communication they re working on, but no doubt that the white house and in particular president trump and certainly his senior adviser, jared kushner and others have somewhat leaned to the side of saudi arabia as well as the united arab emirates. officials on that side of the divide tell me they see a lot of support coming from the white house for the position they ve taken, but you re absolutely right, there are clear dwigiviss within foreign policy and defense management.