we re going over to the former homeland security senior executive and former border patrol agent who spent years infiltrating many of mexico s smuggling rings and drug cartels. he s also the author of the hunt for mon singh and the shadow catcher. let s take a listen to what he said a few minutes ago. most of illegal immigration is coming from our southern border. i ve said many times that the american people will not pay for the wall. and i ve made that clear to the government of mexico. i will notal allow the taxpayers or the citizens of the united states to pay the cost of this defective transaction. that nafta, one that should have been renegotiated many years ago, except that the politicians
that sort of hint at the fact this wasn t a secret. so there s an mlb investigators we spoke to who said he s going to testify at an upcoming trial about how much the mlb knew. we spoke to a scout who says there s a criminal element to how cubans get here but that s not his problem. he s looking the other way. his job is to sign these people. his job is to win, damn it, right? right. the point here is when these players arrive in the u.s., they didn t arrive here legally many times. oftentimes they do so in a way that abuses them and takes advantage of them. so is anybody doing, like the fbi or the fbi is cracking down on this. i.c.e. is cracking down on this. there s an upcoming trial where a sport agent who is accused of being a smuggler will face these charges but dating back since 2004 the feds have cracked down on this. they have broken up three smuggling rings. there s more to go. fascinating. there are players playing now who came in through that terrible route playi
seeing flooding that theyer in saw. we re the only industrialized country in the world where the parties have a debate on this. everyone else, climate change isn t an issue, it s just how to address it. let s talk about cabinet picks. we re hearing it s general john kelly for homeland security. how is this pick being received, wanda, and what does he bring to the table? retired four-star general who rose through the ranks to head u.s. southern command, put him in charge of the military prison at guantanamo bay cuba and put him in position to deal with drug trafficking, cross-border issues, he s likely to face in he becomes homeland security secretary. the big thing critics latch on to is immigration. telling lawmakers on capitol hill as recently as last year that smuggling rings could bring tens of thousands of people across the border illegally into the united states, including children. so definitely some tough rhetoric there. if there s going to be immigration reform, something
have this capability, and they sometimes are moving innocent migrants up through jenna: and i want to ask you about that because, certainly, we know about the smuggling rings, especially going to the islands in greece. these are innocent people paying a lot of money trying to get out of syria. that s what these five individuals say that they are, just innocent people trying to find a better life. what are the chances that, indeed, they are just innocent folks part of a smuggling ring trying to get somewhere with different? well, quite frankly, it s probably more likely that they re not terrorists, and they are innocent people. but the problem is that terrorists use these same routes, use these same networks. and they re able, they re able to move money across, explosives, arms and people using these same networks. jenna: so you re particularly concerned not necessarily about brazil orsos that ca, even honduras. your concern remains venezuela because of what we ve seen over the pas
jackets to act as something as a beacon. what they want to see take place those migrant and refugee boats coming and trying to land on this particular stretch island because it s easier for them. remember, they re not captained by anyone who actually knows how to navigate these waters. they tend to be captained by one of the refugees themselves. one of them arriving earlier packed with men, women, elderly and children. many of them arriving very cold. seeking treatment, pretty much immediately. especially cold because the boats that are they re in are so overpacked by the smugglers. by the time they reach greek shores, by the time they ve been able to reach greek shores, they ve taken in so much water. pledging fast sums of money to various african nations to help them clamp down with the smuggling. try to help them, stop, break apart the various smuggling rings. the problem is, whether it s