private citizens. one of the big issues in the california recall election has been governor gavin newsom s strict pandemic rules including small business lockdowns. let s talk with a couple golden state business owners. chef andrew gruel and candidate for walking county supervisor, dino bollen. great to having with us. i know that you have experience because of your business interests and we ve talked with you about facing lockdowns, rule changing, staffing changing. tonight the governor has held on. the people of california feel like that s her best move forward. chef, what do you think it means for business in your state? i think first and foremost, it certainly was a referendum on newsom s policies. it didn t end up the way many people wanted but i think they should be an opportunity moving forward for newsom to say this tent has gotten a lot eager.