said in court is being sent out in some form. but i do think that it is seeing is believing. right? so if the public sees people talking, when they can relate and listen to tone of voice, and listen to the back and forth, and that directs, and the redirects, and the cross-examination it really helps paint a picture for the public. but let s remember federal court has never had cameras allowed in the courts. and in this case, it is really about what the jury hears when you are talking about justice, it s about what the jury hears. the evidence the jury sees. and how they go about looking at it, going through it. this is going to take about six weeks, don. and i gotta tell you, it is mind-blowing how much information this jury is going to have to look through and sift through to try to come up with their verdict. there is a lot! and when i say a lot, i mean more than i ve ever seen of evidence in this case. plus you have five defendants and each of them have at least one attorney. so
supreme court has ruled against him so many times when it comes to disclosing his public information, including to january six committee. and i just think it s a risk. because what if he loses? what is he supposed to say? the supreme court are bunch of traders? these are the people he appointed. of course, [laughs] , of course that s exactly what you do. john, listen, tara really just said how i feel. is it because it s such a small carve out here, right? is it our he and his attorneys pointing to this one little thing that they could win, so they at least can say that they have a win, even though it is it seems incremental, or, you know, it does not really matter that much? you get my point?
community defies belief that trump could think that these are somehow his possessions. i, i don t get it. and the brief itself that was filed with clarence thomas today, that he has sent on for justice to take action on, fudge is the issue again. does not make any issue to say whether they re calling these document classified or unclassified. it s sort of just uses some fudge words in their, and proceeds, and does not flush it out. at some point, some judge is going to ask the lawyers for trump, to be clear, are you seeing these documents are classified or declassified? let s make it clear, get out on the table. that has not happened yet. you know, this investigation, tara, loves over the midterms and the prospects of trump running for president in 2024. he has not announced it. does it depend on how this case goes? i think this latest move is the narrative shift that i m sure he wants ahead of an announcement that he s running for president. but i have heard from people in his inn
make it a little more complex if they lost at the supreme court level. but not hampered their ultimate objective of trying to find out what trump has done to the national security and whether or not he should be indicted for abusing our national security information. so, i think those are very much on track. and he has done nothing to deflect that. charlie, you re chomping a bit to get in here, what you want to say? it s clear to me that trump is simply trying to delay this process. that s all it s about. he wanted the district court level. and his crack lawyer team got beat unlike mules at the appellate level. he s a strike gum up the works, slow it down. i don t think it s going to i don t think it will really affect the investigation materially itself. and that s at the supreme court level. it s a hail mary pass. i do not think you ll be successful. do you think is trying to get some win here, anywhere in? i think he would like to see the appellate court overturned. but i
guess what that was for? [inaudible] across the face. it s a lot of talk of violence, but the defense says, look, these were all things that happens in the lead up to a november 14th big maga rally here in d. c.. and at the time, there was no january six. it s hadn t been planned, there weren t talking about it, they never mentioned january six in these recordings that were played to the jury. but a lot of what you heard there really goes to the case that the prosecutors were putting on. which is, this is part, in the beginning stages, of this plan, to stop the peaceful transfer of power gone? one of the oath keepers defendants spoke with cnn after court, what are they saying? we heard from thomas caldwell, i want to remind you who he is. he is a navy veteran, he lived in virginia. he didn t really know this group at first but you re gonna see a lot of things going back and forth and he is one of the