why new york and l.a. had two completely different reactions to two nearly identical threats? there was nothing credible about the threat. and back to baltimore. what today s deadlocked jury means for the first trial in the freddie gray case. a all in starts right now. good evening from new york, i m chris hayes. the fifth republican presidential debate t. final gop debate of the year is set to begin if about an hour at the venetian hotel in las vegas. there will be nine candidates on stage, front runner donald trump at center stage. four additional candidates participated in a separate debate earlier in the evening. outside, protesters amassed early in the day with signs opposing hateful rhetoric. inside, the candidates and the media prepare for the first gop debate since the terrorist attacks in paris and san bernardino that have at least as
moment. trump s lead in the national polls has expanded in the last few weeks. a new washington post abc news poll, trump is up 6 points from last month. his support from gop primary voters is 28%. 23 ahead of ted cruz. with less than 50 days, it s cruz who surged to a ten-point lead in a recent poll of caucus goers. marco rubio is getting attention for a new ad that appeals to supporters of trump and cruz. people that feel disaffected, let s say, from american politics. this selection is from the essence of america. about all of us that feel out of place in our own country. a government incredibly out of touch and millions branded bigots and haters. this is about wages growing slower than the cost of living. a generation drowning in debt and a president humiliated by
i put it enrajd. he just took a full breath and bell lowed sig heil. he didn t seem sympathetic the protesters. but i can t fully tell you what he meant. that s not something you hear all the time was your sense of the folks there, there is not a lot of management, partly because secret service has their own rules. secret service has now be been staffed to donald trump. certain candidates get secret service very early. he is one of them. how much are you able to interact with the folks who are attending these rallies? reporter: well, chris, i was mingleing with the crowd talking to some trump supporters before, but here s the thing, i was sort of breaking the rules by doing that. trump has been trying to contain the reporters to a pen, a media pen, in which they can observe the event, not leave, not be in the krouchltd and i have a feeling these protests are outbursts and the reaction may
storm for a candidate like donald trump. the other question i have is how durable these effects are of these shocks on the system like the paris attacks, like the san bernardino attacks. it makes certain sense. there is a certain rationality. we seen these two terrible attack, horrible mass murders. the paris one particularly when planned and terrifying in how logistically complex it was in a bunch of co-conspirators. what do we know about how long that kind of sense of pervasive threat will continue in a voting public? it s as long as they re successful at driving it. i mean, let s be clear. i saw a lot of the democrats lozano in the face of the terrorism stuff coming out in 2000 after george bush sort of used it front and center.
joining me jennifer granholm, correct the record and governor you are a politician. and you understand the power that fear can have among the populous. how do you combat it? how do you respond to it? how do you speak to it in a way that is clear eyed and sober and responsive but doesn t jing people up? well, actually, chris, i think hillary clinton did that today. she was in minnesota. she gave a great speech. in that speech, she directly responded to this. in fact, if i can quote her, she said, we cannot give into fear. we cannot let fear push us into reckless action that make us less same. we must be open hearted. we must celebrate american diversity, not fear it. she s responding, of course, directly as you have alluded to, to donald trump. who is not only the biggest