wing their idea of right wing is way out and the leader of them all is this guy who is leaving the senate. how do you see it? i think this is the place where the conservative movement and the republican party often times part ways, and jim demint has been the burr in the bonnet of mitch mccandle who people on the left think of this hard right intransigent guy because he said his top priority was making barack obama a one-term president but really mitch mcconnell in a lot of ways like john boehner. an old-time deal maker. people like jim demint can t stand people like that. they feel the party has become to easy to capitulate. remember with the budget control act when democrats were screaming bloody murder and thought the president had capitulated? on the far right they thought john boehner and mitch mcconnell had capitulated and lost that negotiation. they want the party further and further to the right. what demint specializes in doing is finding candidates to primary other republ
like we re talking about rock of ages, the big surprise. we have nine states that have done it. in this past election, which i think is pivotal, four states did it completely by popular vote. no court ruling on rights, just public will. for the first time in 40 years in four states thanks to the efforts of chad and a lot of other people, for the first time there was a populist vote, and the people spoke. they have never spoken in favor before, but there are really two ways. it s also equal protection under the law and also that the court has found it to be a fundamental right. this is an extraordinary, extraordinary time, and let s cut this in two. there s to questions here. one is doma, the defense of marriage act. this administration will not defend it in the courts. if that gets struck down, what does that say to cases around the country where people have been allowed to marry in the same gender? chad, on that. what happens it doma gets struck
about values about sexual conduct, it s the fundamental right of a person to pursue happiness and define liberty their way and define relationships their way that come to them basically because of who they are. they don t choose to be gay or whatever. exactly. you re absolutely right. in fact, that s the only thing it s about. it s actually the most simple of things that we could be talking about. in this country we deny a portion of our population the fundamental right to marry the person they love because of who they are. how we are born. again, it s un-american tell that to trent lott. we have learned we don t write off anyone. you look at ted olson and so many republicans and democrats who have stood up with us. joe looked like a great president. thank you. thank you. it s an honor to have you on and your organization. elizabeth birch, good to have you back. much bigger studio now. coming up, the republicans
realities on the ground. the facts. the numbers. 51% of the people identify them as pro-life. that s center right. they don t support outlawing another show. they don t believe in outlawing abortion. self-identify as pro-life. let s move on. the point is no. i can t move on. of this country is when it comes down to the law the people are pro-choice, when it comes to values they may be against abortion. we can t go any further. you have just said the skunt a center right country and your evidence of that is that obama won? no, that s your evidence. what evidence do you have that it s center right? what i m talking about is on the issue that is the conservative movement is going to be talking to the country about tacking the rich? they re against that. there are individuals out there that they can appeal to and my point is more broadly speaking that you cannot lump
is, you know, you talked about the split within the party. that split has been there for a while. it s not just after this election. it goes back a good number of years, and it s not about some ideological i m more conservative than you. it really is trying to figure out and marshall together those core principles that involve around the economic realities that this country has to face. what s the fight about? the fight is about who gets to articulate it, who gets to decide and make just personnel? it s not so much personnel as it is personality. wait a minute. let s step back. way tonight bring in joy. looking at it from across the aisle, i know you re more progressive to put it lightly. here is the story. you have demint out there running a candidate against mitch mcconnell to his right, almost beating him last time around, trying to move the party to the right. selecting knds like sharon angel and some of the whackery ones like christine o donnell. all around the country