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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 07:56:00

police revealed that kody have been seeing an older woman. a woman from who he borrowed the suv used the night of the murder. tony knows that now, of course. that the other woman wasn t mickey. but did she know it then? the night they killed her? a woman knows. whether you are that age or my age. you know some things maybe not right, who that person might be, i don t think she would ve ever in 1 million years thought it was an adult. so, the next person she, in her mind would think would be my daughter. even though it s completely wrong. does that sound like tony wasn t abused women or being an angry boyfriend? or, a scorned woman did turn to rig or self of a perceived rival? anne an unanswered question, which is probably the best will get, set a turning. alston outside of the

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 06:57:00

at her side. said she was ready to tell the lawyers the story. so, are you willing to proceed? i think so, yeah. we talked and we recorded that conversation with her permission. and it was dynamite. you re about to hear the whole new version of mickey s murder that would turn the case upside down. am i to believe that you in fact were present when the girl got killed? yes. and here from the lips of this quite little teen, gave a horrifying story. kody was it the only color. it began for her, she said, with a text from kody saying, i have her. meaning mickey was with him in an suv he had borrowed. he wanted toni to join them. kody picture up, she said. then the three drove around. and it up at the gravel pits. then mickey and kody got out of the car and she started yelling at him. then pushing him.

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 06:56:00

celebration was underway here. it would have been mickey s 17th birthday. i bought a kick balloons, but. took it down to the high school. invited her friends and that was the hardest day, next to finding out she was murdered. apparently murdered by a childhood friend, kody patten. he d confess. was sitting in jail. the death penalty a distinct possibility. or so everyone thought. but as they celebrated mickey s life, there was something about her death they didn t know. several days earlier, kody s legal team had a surprise visitor, kody s fiancée, toni fratto. she arrived with kody s father

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 06:53:00

defense all but impossible. i think he really regretted doing that, because he their confession early on was the strongest piece of evidence against kody. what kody had in mind, we told him when he was involved in the killing, or that he did the killing, god knows. but the more he studied kody s confession, the more ohlson came to believe, just like mickey s family did, that something about it didn t add up. so, hired ohlson a season investigator. a former secret service agent named bill savage. asked him to find out what he could about kody, the murderer. and that boys confession. some of the details that mr. patten reported, didn t quite pack quite passed a sniff test. mickey s, swoons, so severe, so brutal. they certainly didn t seem to

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 06:54:00

be the result of an accident, as kody had claimed. or from a shovel of all things. horrible. slicing, disfigurement to mickey s face. what did that say to you? a great deal of reach by someone. why would kody have done that to a childhood friend? had to be more to the story. attorney ohlson wondered if kody s fiancée, toni fratto, might provide some insight. had kody already talked to the police during the routine interviews with people who knew mickey. kind of curious, where is mickey? what s going on? you know? where could she have gone? so, ohlson spoke to toni himself. did she have any idea why? absolutely not. no idea. was she as devastated as other people seem to have been? i would just cry per aspect as deadpan i described her as

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