american public opinion. we didn t know the names of those people. didn t have the direct association with the folks other than the putin connected oligarch who headed up the operation. but kilimnik we know a lot about. from 1995 to 2005 he worked at the international republican institute, the u.s. government funded entity in moscow. he started off as a translator for them worked his way up. . his language skillsy acquired as a russian intelligence training school. he became friendly and known to u.s. political operatives over the years working with iri. certainly became known to journalists. after ten years at iri and getting fired under bad circumstances, he translated for paul manafort in manafort s political consulting business. that s what got him fired from i are i. with manafort he rose up from being translator starting as a translator to becoming a second in command to paul manafort. he ended up running the ukraine