health care fight, and jared and ivanka, both people with offices in close proximity in the west wing, took off a couple days to go skiing in aspen. i suppose the question is also raised, does she get treated differently? is he treated differently? i think one of the big things to remember about her, also, is she has a trust. as part of the trust, she has an independent ethics adviser. the adviser tells her when she could have a potential conflict. she has the option of vetoing o potential deals her brand does. when she leaves for the weekend or doesn t participate in matters, there isn t transparency about why she might be doing that. there might be the expectation that she should take part in some of the health care decisions and debates because of the fact she s been promoting a maternity policy, for example. we don t really have a lot of transparency into what she s doing or why. rachel abrams, who broke the story, thank you so much for being with us.