that is president trump speaking at the cpac conference on friday with his sitting call to build the wall, three days before trump touted his promise, he engaged in a testy phone conversation with president enrique peña nieto of mexico. during a discussion on who will pay for the border wall, mexico or the united states. that s according to the washington post that says the phone call on tuesday led to peña nieto cancelling his first visit to the white house. mexico again vowing not to pay for the wall. joining me is one of the reporters who broke that story for the washington post, philip rucker. steve cle mons is an msnbc contributors and the washington editor at large for the atlantic. tell us about this phone conversation that s no short conversation, 50 minutes. what was it like? how did officials characteristic it? the mexican side