sanders, three senators all whom want to run for president, all taking the abolish i.c.e. position. is this going to divide the democrats going forward? i think it will divide the democrats, especially those who think we re losing white blue-collar workers. i don t know how an issue like eliminating i.c.e. helps attract those. but it s how progressives have really taken over the party, whether it s $15 minimum wage, a single payer healthcare, these used to be fringe issues held by progressives. now they have entered the mainstream democratic thinking. paul: i think you will see a lot of democrats not adopt abolish i.c.e. i think they will just drop it and not talk about it. trump wants to talk about it all the time. that s how he wants to define this issue between now and november. i think that s why you saw 133 democrats vote present on this bill supporting i.c.e. and it s also why you saw some pennsylvania democrats, lamb, cartwright vote for the bill because they are in trump
country and they realize that and would like to keep their office. paul: it also accentuates the issue a little bit of crime. you ve got ms-13 which ravages some neighborhoods we know here in new york state and elsewhere. and nobody wants that. democrat or republican. but that i.c.e. is fighting that group. i think it goes back to your point. it s not just it s lawlessness, and if lawlessness becomes a defining part of the issue, the republicans will gain. and they won t back they will prefer to keep this as live as an issue. paul: it is a shame because both sides are in their respective camps and we can t seem to get anything done ever on immigration. when we come back, from abolishing i.c.e. to single payer healthcare, a look at the democrats left turn and the growing strength of progressives within the party. karl rove on what it means for the midterms, next. you might take something for your heart. or joints. but do you take something for your brain. with an ingredient origin
majority whip and republican louisiana congressman steve scalise. congressman it s great to see you this morning thanks so much for joining us. good morning always great to be with you maria. maria: so what is the plan to retain control of the house from your standpoint? the plans to continue focusing on getting the economy moving, seeing this great economic growth and then locking it in we re going to bring some more bills to cut taxes, we re going to make the tax cuts permanent that bill chairman brady and his committee are already working on. we just did a jobs 3.0 bill to provide more regulatory relief and do thins to help create more jobs and rebuild middle class and look it s a stark contrast with the radical left s agenda in washington. pelosi is talking about raising taxes, she s talking about abolishing i.c.e., single-payer healthcare that s not the direction we need to go so let s keep the economy moving we re going to continue focusing on it this week and bring a bill to r
another party elder, endorsing progressive state senator kevin deleon over four term senator dianne feinstein. deleon backs a single payer healthcare system. karl rove served as deputy chief of staff and senior advisor to president george w. bush. so welcome, karl. how divided are democrats going into this election? well, increasingly divided because you just touched on a couple of them. we ve seen this throughout the primary season, that in cases of races where the democrats had a shot to win, they threw it away by going hard left. the key example to me was nebraska too. this is the most democratic part of nebraska. it is part of the state that obama carried, that hilary clinton did well in. they had a democratic congressman until recently.
country and they realize that and would like to keep their office. paul: it also accentuates the issue a little bit of crime. you ve got ms-13 which ravages some neighborhoods we know here in new york state and elsewhere. and nobody wants that. democrat or republican. but that i.c.e. is fighting that group. i think it goes back to your point. it s not just it s lawlessness, and if lawlessness becomes a defining part of the issue, the republicans will gain. and they won t back they will prefer to keep this as live as an issue. paul: it is a shame because both sides are in their respective camps and we can t seem to get anything done ever on immigration. when we come back, from abolishing i.c.e. to single payer healthcare, a look at the democrats left turn and the growing strength of progressives within the party. karl rove on what it means for the midterms, next. when i ts it s so hard to believe but it s all coming back me.