convicted of seditious conspiracy for their roles. members of both groups were seen meeting with each other in a garage right outside the capitol the night before the attack. joining me now is justice reporter ryan reilly who has been covering the trial, former lead prosecutor andrew weissmann and former federal prosecutor glen kerschner. are you willing tonight to condemn white supremacists and militia groups and to say that they need to stand down and not add to the violence? give me a name. proud boys, stand back and stand by. ryan, one of the defenses was that they were just following the leader, donald trump, in the encouragement from him. they have been convicted of seditious conspiracy. talk to me about what s happening. reporter: that s right. they explicitly blamed donald trump. during the trial, blaming donald trump for some of the problems that the proud boys are screening new members. after the click, that was a major boon for the proud boys. they produced
dangerous. what would you like to see happen next week when they get together? the washington post says there s a way the the president is leaving the door open for some parallel talks on the budget and the debt ceiling separately, so both sides can declare a victory. we need the republicans and democrats together who put us both in this mess. everyone helped get us to this point. there s no people who don t have their hands on this debt during the last 20, 25 years. we need some mature people to say, we are more worried about the economy now and in the future than we are the next election in 2024. there s a problem solvers caucus of republicans and democrats trying to put together a deal similar to the simpson bowls administration, which i wish they would have listened to. i think there are good ideas on the table by republicans and democrats who want to actually solve the problem as opposed to
things like social security means testing, raising the retirement age. sorts of stuff that might be a little out of step with the current democratic primary. okay. so specifically it sounds to me what you re saying is that unlike what we re seeing currently with the democratic base and his contenders that move further left, that this would be at odds with what his base would want to hear now? a little bit at odds, yeah. one of the plans he specifically cited was simpson bowls which was that deficit reduction plan from the commission that president obama set up and that sort of looked at tax increases, domestic and military spending cuts, means testing for medicare, raising the retirement age and that was just one specific plan that he said we should look at. and when did he say this? in 2012. 2012. the thing that s actually interesting is, we asked his people for comment about it and they said that he no longer
overall. 1 trillion annually, that s a bad combination. it s a really bad combination. i think right now fiscal responsibility is being ignored. and, you know, this has nothing to do with a democrat or republican. someone is going to have to pay those bills. brian: simpson bowls had us on track we didn t entertain it or vote on it? totally ignored it. brian: 10 minutes before the top of the hour. judge andrew napolitano is coming your way. going to be talking about mr. kavanaugh. kellyanne conway on where the white house goes from here and katie pavlich all here live. constitution day. college students getting a much needed education. a professor behind that effort is next. 231 years old. only in america dreaming in red, white, and blue only in america
this is not health care reform. this is taking money from one group of people and giving health care free to another group of people. health care is outcomes. if you want to change medicaid, make sure a medicaid patient doesn t have to run to the emergency room when they get sick, they have a doctor to a medicaid person out there. if you smoke, you ought to pay a little bit more. i want to tie our outcomes to our own behavior. reward outcomes. medicaid and medicare by 2022 will consume all the money you send in taxes. we re expanding a program that is unsustainable. when you add up the unfunded liability of medicare and social security, promises made that we don t have the money for, you need $72 trillion in the next 40 years. if you want us to get out of debt, we need to deal with entitlements. president trump, i hope you re watching, put something like simpson bowls on the table. you can t take entitlements off the table and run this country.