is the fact they have had a catastrophic couple of years because of brexit and then the pandemic which obviously caused travel to come to a standstill but the nature of that decision and how abrupt it was has cause add great deal of anger. i know you spoke to simon caldor a travel expert who had this to say about those layoffs. dp world appears to have instructed p & o ferries, right, just sack everybody, we have other staff waiting, they will be able to take over, we will resume the operation well, they were going to say in a few hours, they are now saying maybe a week or so, and everything will carry on as normal. as we ve seen from the outrage right across the political spectrum, that simply isn t working. reporter: so simon talking about dp world the dubai-based logistics company who owned p & o ferries.