and lavabit. reporter: lavabit looks like they were served with a letter, either a national security letter from the fisa quarter, they were told that they cannot change anything. they are under legal obligation. on the other hand, silent circle does not appear that they had a court order and it was a business decision for them. they are doing that out of an abundance of caution. jenna: said ahead of the company does not want to be complicit in crimes against the american people. there are a few different narratives. there is the big bad government and you also have to raise the question of who was actually using these e-mail services. are these bad guys using e-mail services and that our government have every right with this
some of the other candidates out there. thank you so much. jenna: dramatic new fallout from the government surveillance scandal. two major security e-mail providers taking the extraordinary step of shutting down service. one was reportedly used by edwards noted. shutdown last week and its owner alluding to concerns over secret government court orders, saying that he would rather take flak from customers than be forced to hand over information. silent circle is the name of the other one. and we spoke with morgan right a couple of weeks ago on what is the right way to do it. morgan is back with us today. we have these two companies that say that rather than complying with the company or having the possibility of having to comply, they would rather shut down. the two companies, silent circle
who millions of americans call and how long they talk. but if you don t want to take any chances, there is an app. for that. david lee miller with the good news. david lee? shepard, there are, in fact, more than a half a dozen apps available online such as see clift and silent circle that say they will protect your privacy. the next time you use your smart phone. they each encrypt the data from your phone making it difficult if not impossible for a third party to listen in or learn who you are calling. some of the companies say they are based outside the u.s. in order to being subject to u.s. privacy laws and subpoenas but add they will do the right thing if public safety is at risk. this is an app. to restore privacy rights to the average person. we are not here to help terrorists just to be very clear. so if a government comes to us and says we need help, you know, we will cooperate with them to the full extent that we can. most of the incryption services say once a call is fin
military to hide their identity. it does it by bouncing all over the globe. if we can t figure out who you are but we can figure out traffic analysis in other words looking for patterns and we can also figure out who you are this helps it makes it difficult to see. for chat and instant messaging a popular one is otr? that stands for off the record. that is a component an inscription component. i was on it last night with a friend of mine from kansas. we were on facebook and went to otr chat. it makes it point to point rather than something centralized. him and i were talking directly in a secure tunnel so it prevents eavesdropping. for voice there s silent circle and red phone. red phone was paid for by the u.s. state department funds. good people who have nothing
his investigation into russian election interference. philip rucker of the washington post details how in the book, comey writes about trump s obsession with trying to prove those infamous allegations in the steele dossier untrue. quote, comey writes that trump called him and said he was concerned about the dossier being made public and was fixated on the prostitute s allegation. the president-elect argued that it could not be true because he had not stayed overnight in moscow but had only used the hotel room to change his clothes. comey also writes that interacting with president trump gave him, quote, flashbacks to my earlier career as a prosecutor against the mob. the silent circle of assent. the boss in complete control. the loyalty oaths. the us versus them world view. the lying about all things large and small in service to some code of loyalty that put the organization above morality and