may have a sympathetic ear in germany but on a european wide level there may be a bumpy road ahead. and just how bumpy is it going to be for con makers let s ask greg ought to direct a clean vehicles a transport and environment and joins us now in brussels good to have you with us first of all i d like to put a quote to you i mean german foreign minister sikma gabriele who was economy minister previously has told the european commission president that he has he s against toughening of the european car emission targets by twenty twenty five and the reason is he says he believes that stricter rules will cost jobs and growth how do you argue with that. it s nonsense it s a recent study that dime love b.m.w. and folks work and have participated in been done by the european climate foundation that shows it s net positive for jobs in germany until twenty thirty and that includes more than twenty thousand jobs in the automotive industry nearly