the birth control mandate saying it wasn t necessary. that didn t stop the nuns from firing back at the president. the lawyer for the nuns insisting the obama administration is trying to bully nun into violating their religious beliefs. joining us a lawyer for the little sisters for the poor daniel. nice to have you back. thanks. nice to be here. i sorted through the pleadings today much of the afternoon. here is what i don t understand. i thought you won before you even started. it seemed to me all the nuns had to do sign a certificate nonprofit. against their religious beliefs and then they didn t have to pay it. you know, it comes down to the fine print. in this course with lawyers, that s the way it would be. if you look at the fine print on this form that the government wants the little sisters to sign. the fine print says three things. one, when i give this to you, to my insurer, you have my permission to do the thing that i think is wrong on my behalf. two, you must do tha