previously assisted in his lobbying efforts for ukrainian politicians. he called and texted one of the people encrypted messages. the text said we should talk. i have made clear that they worked in europe. do you think that this means that mueller s team habeen able to decipher encrypted messages? or the recipient of the text shared them? i would go with the latter. what i think is so illustrative of this moment is this is human that fort s business and operations must have been running for years and to think he wouldn t stop this after all that s happened and after all the people that s come forward. having watched person a, which is to be declared maybe as a known agent of russia, and having his side kick gates also go ahead and start to work with the special counsel. it s just stunning he would continue to take these actions, he would continue to mess alk in this way.
is to be declared maybe as a known agent of russia, and having his side kick gates also go ahead and start to work with the special counsel. it s just stunning he continue t take these actions, he would continue to mess alk in this way. when he s been met at every single challenge. i think the important thing to note here is every time we ve seen an increase in the president talking about maybe i can pardon myself or maybe ll just close down the investigation, we see an increase in pressure on people all the way around him. and it s not surprising to me that we see this pop-up here today with manafort in terms of the mueller teamually taking action. so i have to ask you then, does it make it more likely that paul manafort will or could flip? i don t think so. it seems that paul manafort has a lot more to lose outside of confinement than inside of confine .ment. i don t know what is holding him to where he thinks he should fight this a you would the way
manafort because he could get out of going to jail for a long time because they have a good case against him based on documentation and receipts and wire transfers. and e-mail. and it doesn t depend on testimony of people. what if manafort doesn t know enough? in other words do you think mueller knows that manafort knows a lot because if he doesn t have something to trade off, he is in big trouble. yeah. but if manafort didn t know anything, he would make it very clear. but i think that for example, take this beating this june 9th meeting. at the trump tower. everybody said nothing happened as a result of the meeting. but in fact a short time after the meeting the russians released the e-mail troll that they hacked from the dnc, democratic national committee. was that a coincidence or a quid pro quo. manafort would know about that. and if manafort knows about it, his his side kick gates