they re going to survive. this isn t theoretical, this isn t statistical, it s real. i want you to meet fran oriana. her husband is working right now without pay for dhs. she has a story to tell. listen to this. fran oriana and tristan, thank you so much for joining us. thank you so much for having us here. your husband works for homeland security. he does. you had a different job. you had to stop working so you could take care of the baby. now with the shutdown, you don t have any other option because you don t have the money for the child care, and now with the shutdown you re worried how you re going to pay your bills. having a preemie is expensexpen having a new house, you have a mortgage payment. yes. we have a little bit more of doctors visits that we need to worry about, we have formula to buy. it s really devastating and i feel like we re not alone in this. there s a lot of families that are going through the same problems. i mean my husband is one of
happy new year. happy new year, chris. thanks for having me on. i don t really get what s going on here, this shutdown. we had a family on tonight. i wanted people to see who s bearing the price of our bad politics. this isn t a two-day shutdown. i don t get how this works for the president. help me understand. it s a very difficult situation, but let s you know, everybody talks about a national emergency. let s talk about a national disgrace. it s called congress. they have had 40 years to fix the border. fair point. every president has promised they re going to fix it. fair point. this is a president when he came in office he was told north korea will never come to the table. he brought them to the table. they re actually denuclearizing. that is not true. well, they re starting the process. i don t even know what that means, but continue. he did it. criminal justice reform for 25 years since the 90s, he did it. veterans reform, he did it. jerusalem embassy, h
you don t see any way to chris, let me ask you this. would you support if you were voting, would you support making a deal if we could get a vote on major immigration reform, if we could be guaranteed a vote, mitch could not stonewall it and play god as far as what he wants to put on the agenda for us to vote on. in order to get the money that he s wanting, the $5 billion to the security, we get a vote on this to really change the immigration and fix it. do your job, vote. do you think that would be a good deal? yeah. i think being held hostage is making such a difference in people s lives here. this shutdown is not one of these one or two day things, this is the real deal for families. that s why i wanted you on, senator, to give us the state of play. i don t know how my republican chris, i don t know how my republican friends, i surely don t know how my republican friends, and these are all good people, i get along with everybody and work well with them, but how they ca
there are so many things that we need to secure this border. but a fence or a secured border, a fencing of some sort is needed also. sure. they have said that. 700 to 900 miles. i ve said this. people have come there s people come to the country for two different purposes. they come here the wrong way for the right purpose. they come here the wrong way for the wrong purpose. we want to get rid of those people that came here the wrong way for the wrong purpose. the people who came here for the right purpose but the wrong way, they will pay their fine, they will get in the back of the line. they want to be productive, they want to be americans. we should have a pathway for that to happen. but the bottom line is if you throw the people out, you have to have a secured border or they keep coming back. we ve got the same people coming back but you have to have the resources to process these people and make the process work. true. and make the rules clear and have a consistent p
going to fund border security at $5.7 billion, we are going to we want tps, we want daca. they could probably get it. but i would like to go see what you can get and give him what he wants. i would like to see somebody propose that and see what actually happens. mia love, it s great to have you here. welcome. the news continues. i want to hand it over to chris. cuomo primetime starts right now. thank you, anderson. i am chris cuomo and welcome to primetime. this shutdown may be the worst one ever. we re going on three weeks. no paychecks for hundreds of thousands of american families. this is the emergency, not the border. i ll show you the difference between the farce of this new wall and the facts of this shutdown. we have a democrat who actually supports the president s wall here. we ll go one on one with senator joe manchin of west virginia. and then we have what this shutdown is really about.