the big thing now is whether trump decides that shutdown politics work for him. they normally don t. they never really have. for either side. but if you talk about focusing attention on a shutdown versus focusing the attention on the fact that i m now criminally liable and the russians colluded and there s a russian spy in court today, my former lawyer was sentenced yesterday, for trump, that may be better politics. that s a wild, wild, wild theory of look over there, to shut the government down so you don t focus on russia. it is wild, it is irresponsible, and it s totally possible. doug? yeah, you know, one thing that donald trump and his team are very good at, they play star wars with us all the time and basically say these are not thedroids you re looking for. we go down a rabbit hole that distracts us from what is typically the news of the day. that s a skill that donald trump has. we fall for it every time. i m guilty of it as well. i would tell you that shutdowns aren t
ted cruz was the pied piper of the conservatives in the house of all places. it backfired terribly. the republican party standing with the public dropped to the lowest level in the history of the gallup poll. people say they won the next election. they did, but that was a year and a couple of months to go before that and a major intervening event, which was wa disastrous roll out of obamacare. shutdown politics are a bad idea and if you are going to try to pull that off, the last thing you want to be doing is threatening it because it means that you are going to be blamed. bret: molly? i think what you have is a president who really wants to deal with the issue and an establishment in both parties that really doesn t want to deal with the issue and donald trump knows that the leverage he has is with the voters and the only time republicans get the steel needed to take on their donor class and talk about immigration is when they are under threat from voters. donald trump is using th
that. how great is the fear of a reckoning of a backlash and how great do you fear that ll be carried out next november? i m very afraid. if you look at the president s numbers and the turn out in the special election there s a receding protest army against the republican party, and we ve got ten months. we will see. maybe there s some policy agenda like the tax cuts that will sink in and help but right now storm cloud horizon, we re bringing a lot back on ourselves. do you promise to come back and talk to us? i ll be happy to. and this memo will be over in 24 hour and we ll in shutdown politics. i think a lot of people think it was a dud. nothing changed. it s almost an embarrassment. i think i might take that back. mike murphy, thank you. always a pleasure to have crow on the broadcast. coming up for us presidential writer about the
we ll be on to shutdown politics. even the republican party thought they were going to start some big trial balloon here. nothing changed. it s almost an embarrassment. i might take that back. mike murphy, thank you, always a pleasure to have you on the broadcast. coming up for us, presidential biographer, david marinas. he has an interesting answer to the question about whether or not he sees any parallels to today. there s tail gunner joe right now. we ll ask him about it when the 11th hour continues. who are these people?