horse. he has to communicate to the america people it is a race that s a contrast between democracy, the rule of law and u.s. constitution and someone who just wants to disregard it. harris: you know what? he is a show horse, come on. we remember when he would go to the car shows and threaten reporters behind the wheel of swanky cars and, you know, he loves attention. stop it, patrick. we hear you. doug. well, you know, my fellow the democrats don t have a second choice here. no plan b. there are many democrats worried they are taking this too complacently and the biden campaign is trying to run the campaign from the basement again. that s going to be something that they ll come out of. i think if they continue to basically take half the american people and claim that people who vote for trump are like trump in the last election or the folks that we re against here is not a good strategy. a lot of independents in there as well especially when you have
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shoulder to shoulder on issues. and i talked to a couple of people that sat with gavin newsom. he is all show horse. is he not a substance policy guy. ainsley: when he interviewed with sean, he refused to say he would ever run for president. this is not my time. i m not running. i support biden, i support biden. glenn youngkin yesterday when laura asked him if he was going to run for president he didn t answer the question that sounds like a campaign speech. i m focusing on virginia and midterm elections. steve: we know what ron desantis looks like in a national debate. we have seen that but gavin newsom, he, i think, will be the big benefactor, actually sean hannity is going to be the benefactor because his ratings are going to be through the roof. gavin newsom people are going to watch him debate ron desantis. if you are a political independent or democrat, you are going to go that guy is so much younger than joe biden. shufnt we have that guy in there right now? brian: to me,